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Old 12-23-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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Yes of course the argument is incorrect and of course it is based on a flawed premise. But we can read and learn and study about Shabbat anyway, it's a mitzvah.

 
Old 12-23-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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This is ridiculous, and all of those who engage in extended discussion of this are ignoring the nonsensical basis of this person's "argument." The phases of the moon, Saturn and Uranus all have NOTHING to do with when the Sabbath falls. Whether you name the days of the week (a human convention, btw, not an astronomical phenomenon) by numbers, Norse "gods" and heavenly bodies, or temporal distance from the seventh day, the week still is just seven days, counted over and over. While a day depends on the sun, lunar, solar or any other establishment of a year has NOTHING to do with when the seventh day falls. Passover, Groundhog Day, and Washington's birthday come and go, and Election Day falls on Tuesday regardless of whether you are Jewish or not.

If you can count to seven, you should be able to understand this. If not, let me just inform you that the real question is not when Shabbos occurs in a goyische leap year, or, for that matter, in a Jewish leap year. The real question is, "Do they have a fourth of July in England?"

Let me ask you this. Was every Feast of Unleavened Bread on on a weekly seventh day?
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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Yes of course the argument is incorrect and of course it is based on a flawed premise. But we can read and learn and study about Shabbat anyway, it's a mitzvah.
And do you really think that that is what some are doing with a poster who CHOOSES the handle HeWillCome2040? Who does he think is coming? The Easter bunny?
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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Correct me if Iím wrong, but none of this matters. The Jews ďmakeĒ Shabbos. Thatís the kedusha, not the day of the week.
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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Let me ask you this. Was every Feast of Unleavened Bread on on a weekly seventh day?
No.
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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And do you really think that that is what some are doing with a poster who CHOOSES the handle HeWillCome2040? Who does he think is coming? The Easter bunny?

My name is based on the fact that I'm a Christian as I stated in another thread here. Therefore, I believe Christ is coming in 2040. This is based on the interpretation of Genesis 6:3 and an understanding of the Jubilee and the time of Moses and Joshua.
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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So maybe it doesn't have anything to do with the Lunar Phases. I mean when was the last Sabbath? Was that a Full or half moon?
 
Old 12-23-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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And do you really think that that is what some are doing with a poster who CHOOSES the handle HeWillCome2040? Who does he think is coming? The Easter bunny?
I have no interest in hearing about other beliefs, simply discussing Judaism and that is the purpose of this forum. The beauty of this section is that we get to talk about Judaism without discussing other religions and other beliefs. It's not an argument or a debate or proving anything. It is simply discussing explaining studying learning Judaism. Which is a source of happiness and delight for me because it is a wellspring of beauty elegance and kedusha.

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Old 12-23-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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So maybe it doesn't have anything to do with the Lunar Phases. I mean when was the last Sabbath? Was that a Full or half moon?
The last Shabbat ended yesterday at 5:32 pm in my time zone. Its date was 14 Tevet. Today is 15 Tevet.

The next new month is Rosh Chodesh Sh'vat, and 1 Shvat begins at 4:42 pm in my time zone (onJanuary 6)

https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...e-New-Moon.htm

http://www.jewfaq.org/m/chodesh.htm

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Old 12-23-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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I think I got the answers I was looking for in this thread. Thank you all for the discussion.
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