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Old 02-11-2019, 07:35 PM
 
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"The ARIzal writes that it is a great mitzvah to draw close to God by visiting the graves of tzaddikim. Through praying at such a grave, we can bind ourselves to that tzaddik, and even acquire some of the tzaddik's holiness. Because we are aroused to repentance by the power of the tzaddik, our prayers are more acceptable. At the same time, the tzaddik will entreat God on our behalf."

Arizal = Rabbi Yitzchak Luria

https://m.breslev.co.il/html/rebbe_n...nguage=english
Tzaph, you are truely a kasher beacon in this forum. Thanks so much for all your contributions here.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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So is it your position that Hashem was unable to stop this evil from occurring? That somehow “evil” is a greater force than Hashem Himself?



1. I know exactly the rabbi who said your OP premise. Variation to that is Jews sinned so much that Holocaust was punishment on them. Like The Flood. Variation to that is - exactly how many rich Jews were killed in that "pruning"? As in - really rich? As it looks like low and middle strata of Jewry took it in, while rich and famous escaped way before the time came.
2. Anyhow. To the quoted above. You do not know. I do not know. NO ONE knows. As no one has His wisdom and plan. Everyone only guesses, but that's about it. Though you did say one wise sentence. NOTHING happens without His will. From that on, it's interpretations. In great schema of things, there is no good or evil. There is only balancing forces bringing everything to balance. And from perspective of eternity of a spirit, dwelling in a human body, life or death are irrelevant concepts, as they are of the physical and spirit is unperturbed.

Best you can do is to stand in God's will and be grateful for anything is given onto thi, as everything is the blessing.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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For the rich Jews who survived, perhaps they were being granted their (brief) reward in olam hazeh (this world) while those destroyed in the churban will get eternal reward in olam haba (the world to come).
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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For the rich Jews who survived, perhaps they were being granted their (brief) reward in olam hazeh (this world) while those destroyed in the churban will get eternal reward in olam haba (the world to come).
Which is contradictory to your premise in your OP, as how would they have paid off Hashem in order not to be pruned?
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Which is contradictory to your premise in your OP, as how would they have paid off Hashem in order not to be pruned?
You misunderstand. A (brief) reward in this world is nothing compared to an eternal reward in the world to come.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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Which is contradictory to your premise in your OP, as how would they have paid off Hashem in order not to be pruned?
The OP stands. For a Jew, our bitachon and emunah are strong. Back of everything is hashgacha pratis even if our limited human perspective can not make sense of it. We trust Hashem and that is our strength and our joy.

Bitachon "trust in Hashem"
Emunah "faith in Hashem"
Hashgacha pratis "Divine providence"
Neshama "soul"

When we get to the other side then we will see from the perspective our neshama and things will make sense in a way they may not now. When we are in the heavenly academies we can ask whatever questions we want, and learn and understand that which now baffles us.

I keep a list of questions to ask for when I get to the heavenly academies. I keep adding questions and removing ones that have already been answered.

Torah has layer upon layer upon layer of meaning. A single event can have not just one or 4 or 5 meanings, not just 70 meanings, but even more. Some may even seem contradictory. But they are not.

One of the first lessons I ever heard mentioned in one of the first classes I ever attended when I first started going to shul was about the many meanings Torah has and that a Torah exists that belongs just to each one of us with our own name on it and to read it is to understand the meaning of everything in our life every event every incident every situation from the perspective of our soul. That is a Torah I very much want to study and it is one of the reasons I keep my list of questions.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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Please forgive me for eavesdropping. Respectfully...
G_d "allows" is the same thing as "ordains"?
I wanted to say also, the Nazis couldn't see past their hatred and twisted egos to realize they were ripping G_d's heart out.
Men (people) are inherently sinners. Apart from the almighty we are all Hitlers.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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Please forgive me for eavesdropping. Respectfully...
G_d "allows" is the same thing as "ordains"?
I wanted to say also, the Nazis couldn't see past their hatred and twisted egos to realize they were ripping G_d's heart out.
Men (people) are inherently sinners. Apart from the almighty we are all Hitlers.
Not really Jewish ideas. But feel feee to continue to eavesdrop and comment here.
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