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Old 05-16-2019, 04:23 AM
 
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She, and yes, I do.
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:25 AM
 
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And? They're both basically Modern Orthodox lite, so both go to shul. It's the Reform and Conservative that are iffy when it comes to shul.
I thought Reforms called it Temple, Conservatives called it Synagogue and Orthodox called it Shul?...
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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I thought Reforms called it Temple, Conservatives called it Synagogue and Orthodox called it Shul?...
It depends on the person I suppose. I call it Shul or Bet Knesset.
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Not really. To people like me who are part of what is often termed "liberal Christianity", Yoshke is not offensive. Our Christ had a sense of humor himself.

I know, I have a Christian friend who once told me that Jesus' saying about a camel going through the eye of a needle was some kind of humorous remark, but I don't remember exactly how my friend explained it to me.

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Many of us also feel that trying to draw a Jew away from Torah would be an offense to God. Your religion and ours are related, but different. Read something once to the effect that a Jew should be the best Jew one can be, a Christian the best Christian, a Muslim the best Muslim, etc. Cannot locate the quote.
I think so, too. We should all strive to be the best person that G-d intended us to be. I don't think that G-d ever intended for all of us to be the same religion, or even speak the same language. But I think that trying to understand each other and live in peace with each other is something that G-d would approve of.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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I thought Reforms called it Temple, Conservatives called it Synagogue and Orthodox called it Shul?...
It also may depend on the area. I use the term shul in a more affectionate sense, referring to the people. "Temple" is the building. "Synagogue" is the area we have services in.

It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong, but it seems others in my circle tend to do the same, and it's what I've picked up on.
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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It also may depend on the area. I use the term shul in a more affectionate sense, referring to the people. "Temple" is the building. "Synagogue" is the area we have services in.

It wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong, but it seems others in my circle tend to do the same, and it's what I've picked up on.
I've gotten into the habit of using the term "congregation" to refer to the people themselves. The other terms are those I use for the places in which we congregate. It seems easier for most people reading what I write to understand what I'm talking about, as I've also been a member on forums that aren't exclusively about Judaism.

Is Shalhevet (שלהבת) the name you chose for your Hebrew name? I think it's a really lovely name! It means "flame" or "blaze," but when it's written as "Shalhevit" (שלהבית) it's the name of a fiery yellow-colored wildflower of Israel. I love floral names.

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9...91%D7%99%D7%AA
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Is Shalhevet (שלהבת) the name you chose for your Hebrew name? I think it's a really lovely name! It means "flame" or "blaze," but when it's written as "Shalhevit" (שלהבית) it's the name of a fiery yellow-colored wildflower of Israel. I love floral names.

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9...91%D7%99%D7%AA
Why thank you, yes it is! I struggled so hard with the name, but when I stumbled on this, it finally felt right. I have been told my personality is somewhat fiery, I have red hair and I was told by my converting rabbi that I have a "real fire" for Judaism when I was in the conversion process. It seemed right.

Do you have a picture of the flower? I tried to look it up and had no luck... I'd love to see it. We're going to Israel in July, I want to take a picture!!
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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I'd like to understand more about why anti-semitism has persisted so long among Christians.

It seems beyond any proportion and quite a thin excuse that a group of Jews may or may not have played a part in condemning Jesus. The New testament description notwithstanding, Pontius Pilate was no wilting flower. If you believe Reza Aslan's "Jesus", he had already condemned several Jews to be crucified, plus as a Roman governor, he would not want to appear weak to his subjects.

But let's assume all that is true, and Jews in the first century caused Jesus to die. Don't the Christians still profess to believe in the Old testament? Where God says that the sins of the father shall not cause punishment for the children? So what explains the neo-Nazis today, the Nazis before them, the horrific pogroms in the Eastern Europe in the last few centuries, and going back even more, the crusaders murdering Jews on their way to wage the Holy War?

It is one thing to be weary of a "strange" religion (never mind that Christianity originated in Judaism and worships the same God - I think?), or suspect minorities because they don't "fit". Happens all over the world. But does not usually translate into a pattern of systematic murders.

Is it the success of Jews? A diversionary tactic by Christian (and Muslim) kings and dictators to direct the frustrations of their populace to an external whipping boy?

I get that irrational hatred cannot be fully explained by reason, but even a partial explanation would be appreciated. I have just about given up. But I think racists, Nazis, crusaders etc may be evil but not any dumber (except for the blind hate) than the rest of us. So what sustains their wrong beliefs?
There is a WASP gang culture that has dominated the US from the beginning. Right now they are in a fierce culture gang war to retain their turf.

Jesus is not a way of life for the WASP gang, He's just their gang sign.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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Why thank you, yes it is! I struggled so hard with the name, but when I stumbled on this, it finally felt right. I have been told my personality is somewhat fiery, I have red hair and I was told by my converting rabbi that I have a "real fire" for Judaism when I was in the conversion process. It seemed right.

Do you have a picture of the flower? I tried to look it up and had no luck... I'd love to see it. We're going to Israel in July, I want to take a picture!!

Click on the link in my previous post. It will take you to the Hebrew language edition of Wikipedia, and you'll see a picture of the shalhevit on that page.


That really does sound like a perfect Hebrew name for you! A fiery light for Judaism!
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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Peculiarly, no matter how much casuistics one tries, Yoshke ( I am just repeating who else said, no intention) apparently, IS derogatory.
At least all the first entries in dictionaries define it as such.


Yoshke
(Judaism, eupemistic, derogatory) Jesus Christ


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Yoshke


Yoshke

Alternative Spellings

Yoshka
Definitions

  • an irreverent or derogatory name for Jesus Christ
https://jel.jewish-languages.org/words/628


I think, for someone who is honestly respectful, as claimed, of "others" and clearly knowing word derogatory use, such caustic joke should be plainly avoided, unless intended in that exactly meaning.
Surely, one will employ plenty of Machiavellian rhetoric to cover it up now..... But as they say, word is not a bird, you let it out - can't return it.
And then you wonder, why.....
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