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Old 08-02-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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A bit of shameless self-promotion. I wrote about Jerusalem cats a few years ago. I grew up as a cat owner and love cats, but the blog post holds true.

https://rosends.blogspot.com/2017/06/cats-risk.html

That was very entertaining! Rabbi Rosen, you are a man of many talents!


Sorry about Julie's troubles, though. (But it was still a great story!)
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Old 08-02-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I had thought that the cat didn't have a place in Judaism, because domestic cats aren't mentioned anywhere in the Bible. While it's true that they're not biblical animals, I was happy to discover how wrong I was about cats and Judaism! I was previously unaware that "cats are mentioned fondly in the Talmud. Our rabbinic sages, including the great commentator Rashi, note that cats are an example of modesty given their use of their litter boxes and indeed the Talmud states, If the Torah wasnít given, we would have learned modesty from the cat.Ē (quoted from the blog of Rabbi Barbara Aiello).

Rabbi Yonassan Gershom (author of Jewish Themes in Star Trek), wrote an entire blog entry on "The Jewish View of Cats" which presents a fascinating history of the cat's relationship to Jewish culture. While cats were often viewed by medieval Christians as being demonic (and all too often burned along with perceived witches), Jews however "kept them around to hunt rodents and protect the holy books from mice. To this day, Torah scrolls are made of parchment, and books back then were all bound in leather with glues made from animal hides, which made them very tempting for rodents to chew. So it was common to have a shul katze (synagogue cat) to protect the congregation's library."

I love the idea of the shul katze! If you'd like to read Rabbi Gershom's blog entry on the Jewish view of cats, here is the link: Notes from a Jewish Thoreau: The Jewish view of cats

Shabbat Shalom, everyone!
Great information, Rachel New York, thanks for sharing, and I also enjoyed the posts from everyone else on the thread but didn't want to multi-quote so many posts. Going to read rosends's blog.

Good luck with the new kitty, Rachel976.

I had four, now down to one, an old boy of 14, all black, but he's in pretty good shape still.

Shabbat Shalom, everyone.
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Old 08-03-2019, 09:33 PM
 
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There are many many halachic difficulties and requirements to owning a cat (or any pet). It can be done, but not recommended unless you are committed to learning all the related halcha. For instance, the poskim have ruled itís forbidden to own a pet if you attend a shul and donít pay full dues. We own dogs, and thereís much for a G-d fearing Yid to learn from owning a pet.
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Old 08-04-2019, 03:40 AM
 
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There are many many halachic difficulties and requirements to owning a cat (or any pet). It can be done, but not recommended unless you are committed to learning all the related halcha. For instance, the poskim have ruled it’s forbidden to own a pet if you attend a shul and don’t pay full dues. We own dogs, and there’s much for a G-d fearing Yid to learn from owning a pet.

*Sigh* Clearly, a halachic disclaimer is necessary for this forum. With respect to the Mods, I would like to suggest the following:

The posts on the Judaism forum are written by a very varied group of Jews with different views and customs. Please don't take any comments or answers as P'sak Halacha (a rabbinic ruling of Jewish law). Please ask your own rabbi to find out which opinion you should go by. Never change your customs or adopt minhagim ("traditions that are not mentioned in the Torah or mandated by Jewish law") based on what a forum member has told you. You must verify in real life with your own rabbi or trusted advisor as to what you should do.

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Old 08-04-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: US
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*Sigh* Clearly, a halachic disclaimer is necessary for this forum. With respect to the Mods, I would like to suggest the following:

The posts on the Judaism forum are written by a very varied group of Jews with different views and customs. Please don't take any comments or answers as P'sak Halacha (a rabbinic ruling of Jewish law). Please ask your own rabbi to find out which opinion you should go by. Never change your customs or adopt minhagim ("traditions that are not mentioned in the Torah or mandated by Jewish law") based on what a forum member has told you. You must verify in real life with your own rabbi or trusted advisor as to what you should do.
Some things that were once minhagim are now Halacha...
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Old 08-04-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Some things that were once minhagim are now Halacha...

Then it would be helpful if the person making a claim were to provide a source.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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There are many many halachic difficulties and requirements to owning a cat (or any pet). It can be done, but not recommended unless you are committed to learning all the related halcha. For instance, the poskim have ruled itís forbidden to own a pet if you attend a shul and donít pay full dues. We own dogs, and thereís much for a G-d fearing Yid to learn from owning a pet.


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Old 08-04-2019, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Some things that were once minhagim are now Halacha...
Well there is...

Halachic Perspectives on Pets \ Rabbi Howard Jachter
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:32 PM
 
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Great information, Rachel New York, thanks for sharing, and I also enjoyed the posts from everyone else on the thread but didn't want to multi-quote so many posts. Going to read rosends's blog.

Good luck with the new kitty, Rachel976.

I had four, now down to one, an old boy of 14, all black, but he's in pretty good shape still.

Shabbat Shalom, everyone.
Thank you!
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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There are many many halachic difficulties and requirements to owning a cat (or any pet). It can be done, but not recommended unless you are committed to learning all the related halcha. For instance, the poskim have ruled itís forbidden to own a pet if you attend a shul and donít pay full dues. We own dogs, and thereís much for a G-d fearing Yid to learn from owning a pet.
Good way to take the joy out of owning a pet! Thankyouverymuch.

I say that saving a little life from the shelter is a mitzvah, regardless of Halacha. She ain't getting no cans of shrimp, but beyond that....not going to worry about it.
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