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Old 08-04-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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Interesting article, 'Tali. Thanks for the link.

But as we can see, there are different halachic perspectives regarding different situations based on different rabbis having differing opinions. For example, the issue as to whether or not a guide dog for the blind ought to be allowed in a synagogue is enough to see the polarization of some rabbis on some issues.

This is why we defer to our own rabbi. I can tell you right now that if my rabbi were on the side of those who believed that a blind person should not be permitted to bring his/her service dog to religious services, then I would find myself a new (and more reasonable and compassionate) rabbi.

This is what is meant when it is said that Judaism is not a monolithic religion. We don't have any single human being as our central ruling authority like the Catholics have the Pope.

@Rabbi Rosen: Please correct me if I am wrong here. While you are not my rabbi, I respect your words on this forum.



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Old 08-04-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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Good way to take the joy out of owning a pet! Thankyouverymuch.

I say that saving a little life from the shelter is a mitzvah, regardless of Halacha. She ain't getting no cans of shrimp, but beyond that....not going to worry about it.

I also believe it's a mitzvah to save an unwanted pet and give it a good home. Although my little rescue dog isn't getting any bacon, either. LOL (Our pets are probably better off for it, too, Rachel!)
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Old 08-04-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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Interesting article, 'Tali. Thanks for the link.

But as we can see, there are different halachic perspectives regarding different situations based on different rabbis having differing opinions. For example, the issue as to whether or not a guide dog for the blind ought to be allowed in a synagogue is enough to see the polarization of some rabbis on some issues.

This is why we defer to our own rabbi. I can tell you right now that if my rabbi were on the side of those who believed that a blind person should not be permitted to bring his/her service dog to religious services, then I would find myself a new (and more reasonable and compassionate) rabbi.

This is what is meant when it is said that Judaism is not a monolithic religion. We don't have any single human being as our central ruling authority like the Catholics have the Pope.

@Rabbi Rosen: Please correct me if I am wrong here. While you are not my rabbi, I respect your words on this forum.



As with most any statement in religion, it is safest to say

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Old 08-04-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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This is why we defer to our own rabbi. I can tell you right now that if my rabbi were on the side of those who believed that a blind person should not be permitted to bring his/her service dog to religious services, then I would find myself a new (and more reasonable and compassionate) rabbi.
My shul has a blind man. He does not use a service animal on Shabbos. The men in the shul have been attending to his every need on Shabbos for years. I believe there’s a level of compassion included in this that no dog can provide. Chazal knew what they were doing, I assure you.

And with the constant never ending hateful behavior you exhibit towards me - the way you have singled me out with your constant harassing, I seriously doubt you understand what compassion really is.

Edited: this last part was meant for the other Rachel. Sorry I confused you two.
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Old 08-04-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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As with most any statement in religion, it is safest to say

I don't know if it's "safest," but I do think that it's wisest.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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My shul has a blind man. He does not use a service animal on Shabbos. The men in the shul have been attending to his every need on Shabbos for years. I believe thereís a level of compassion included in this that no dog can provide. Chazal knew what they were doing, I assure you.
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Per Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 88 he can use his service animal on shabbat.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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I also believe it's a mitzvah to save an unwanted pet and give it a good home. Although my little rescue dog isn't getting any bacon, either. LOL (Our pets are probably better off for it, too, Rachel!)
Agree. Those bacon strips are full of fat! Or so I've read....
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:44 PM
 
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My shul has a blind man. He does not use a service animal on Shabbos. The men in the shul have been attending to his every need on Shabbos for years. I believe thereís a level of compassion included in this that no dog can provide. Chazal knew what they were doing, I assure you.

And with the constant never ending hateful behavior you exhibit towards me - the way you have singled me out with your constant harassing, I seriously doubt you understand what compassion really is.

Edited: this last part was meant for the other Rachel. Sorry I confused you two.
Huh? I still think you're confused. When did I ever harass you with hateful behavior? All I said was that I'm doing a mitzvah adopting a homeless animal and that I wasn't going to worry about Halacha. My cat keeps kosher-style (since I don't bring traif into the house), but other than that, I'm not going to do anything more. (Truth be told, I don't even think the cat realizes she's Jewish!)
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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Fine.

We have 2 dogs. Rescued them at 2 years old, all 2 years having been spent in a breeders cage. Our last dog we rescued at 11 yrs of age. Only got 2 years with that sweetie. Itís easy enough to follow halacha when it comes to a dog. Cats are probably easier.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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Fine.

We have 2 dogs. Rescued them at 2 years old, all 2 years having been spent in a breeders cage. Our last dog we rescued at 11 yrs of age. Only got 2 years with that sweetie. Itís easy enough to follow halacha when it comes to a dog. Cats are probably easier.

Well done, TFF. Dogs imprisoned in breeders' cages have the saddest lives. Cheers to you for rescuing them.

@Rachel976: I don't know about bacon, either, except there's this TV commercial I've seen where this hyperactive, goyisher talking dog goes: "BACON! BACON! BACON! GOTTA GET ME SOME BACON! AHHHHH BACON!!!" Crazy, right? lol
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