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Old 09-06-2019, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Richard, do you ever listen to New York Jewish radio? I was listening to a shiur tonight, and the speaker gave over the shiur (lamp) in full on Yeshivish (car engine). It was gorgeous to listen to. Youíll no longer have the opportunity to hear and learn it in this forum, though, from now on. But thatís a good thing. Some people decided.
So here is a perfect lesson of what I previously typed where the items in parenthesis are wrong.

shiur (lamp)

Shiur is a lesson on any Torah topic


Yeshivish (car engine)

Yeshivish, also known as Yeshiva English is a sociolect of English spoken by Yeshiva students and other Jews with a strong connection to the Orthodox Yeshiva world.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I think everything will be just fine...
Please don't send me translation requests as I really don't want to do it again. Hopefully one of the new people here can translate Yeshivish Hebrew & Yiddish, American Hebrew & Yiddish, Israeli Hebrew & Torah Hebrew.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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So here is a perfect lesson of what I previously typed where the items in parenthesis are wrong.
Well Pruz says I donít know what the words I use mean, so I guess heís right. So how can we trust anybodyís translations?

I think in our case, the only proper solution is to punish everybody who attempts to use a foreign word. Or...people can google any word they want and be more sure of itís correct translation than trusting my seemingly wrong translations. Or maybe we should only let Rosends and Pruz translate? Perhaps theirs can be trusted. All others should be forbidden from using foreigner-type words. Or final possibility: just let it be. 95%of you seem happy to translate your own words. Go for it. For the 5% who donít, you can ignore them and stop bullying them into your way.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:27 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Well Pruz says I donít know what the words I use mean, so I guess heís right. So how can we trust anybodyís translations?

I think in our case, the only proper solution is to punish everybody who attempts to use a foreign word. Or...people can google any word they want and be more sure of itís correct translation than trusting my seemingly wrong translations. Or maybe we should only let Rosends and Pruz translate? Perhaps theirs can be trusted. All others should be forbidden from using foreigner-type words. Or final possibility: just let it be. 95%of you seem happy to translate your own words. Go for it. For the 5% who donít, you can ignore them and stop bullying them into your way.
Nobody is bullying anybody. We're trying to work to comply with the company owner's rules in ways that meet most people's needs.

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Old 09-06-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Nobody is bullying anybody. We're trying to work to comply with the company owner's rules in ways that meet most people's needs.

You can participate, or not.
Woodrow, Yac and I had this conversation long ago. I don't understand why it needs to come up again and again in relation to the same person.
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Old 09-06-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Woodrow, Yac and I had this conversation long ago. I don't understand why it needs to come up again and again in relation to the same person.
Me either. We had peace. What changed?
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Old 09-06-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Though I can't be sure, I sense that you mean "frum" which is tied to religious Orthodox practice, and then, inferentially to piety.
Yes, I meant ď Frum ď. I need to start proofreading ,before I hit the reply button. I didnít know if the word ď piousĒ meant any religious Jew , who attends synagogue, studies Torah, gives to charity, sends their children to Jewish day schools, but whoís not 100% on keeping Kosher, all the commandments that apply to him, strictly observes Shabbos, etc, or if the word ( pious)only applies to one that does.
Like, if the words ď pious ď and ď frumĒ are interchangeable, or if there was a slight difference between the two words, as far as describing someone.
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Old 09-06-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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Yes, I meant ď Frum ď. I need to start proofreading ,before I hit the reply button. I didnít know if the word ď piousĒ meant any religious Jew , who attends synagogue, studies Torah, gives to charity, sends their children to Jewish day schools, but whoís not 100% on keeping Kosher, all the commandments that apply to him, strictly observes Shabbos, etc, or if the word ( pious)only applies to one that does.
Like, if the words ď pious ď and ď frumĒ are interchangeable, or if there was a slight difference between the two words, as far as describing someone.
In my pov, the terms are similar but different. Pious is a generalized word that can be taken many ways. One can be pious and still eat treif (unkosher) food.

Frum simply means one who is observant of all 613 mitzvos without any exception. Itís generally only used with Torah Observant (some call Orthodox) Jews.
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Old 09-06-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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What about the commandments that only apply to men who live in Israel or the temple , before being destroyed?
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Old 09-06-2019, 12:27 PM
 
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What about the commandments that only apply to men who live in Israel or the temple , before being destroyed?

Women are exempt from some commandments that are called "positive time-bound" commandments. It's because women have duties to their families which take precedence over the fulfillment of such mitzvot. These women are still considered to be frum, even though they do not adhere to all 613 mitzvot.
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