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Unread 04-06-2011, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Old Hyde Park, Kansas City,MO
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Ranked 20th in US - Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA$114,028,000,000

That is pretty good for a fairly small metro area, i assume Nike must contribute a lot to that
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Unread 04-06-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Yeah, Portland is pretty high but they do have 2.222M people, larger than KC metro. The per cap comes to about $51,225, not quite as high as MSP per cap. I'd think Denver and maybe Seattle might have among highest per cabsp.

Also, I wouldn't have expected STL per cap to be lower than Ohio cities. It's barely above Detroit, hmm... Service industry jobs generate lowest GMP so apparently more manufacturing workers in STL went toward Service industry than Ohio cities did.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 12:09 PM
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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MSP probably passed Detroit long ago. MSP has been in kickass mode for quite a while. Congrats.

Is more surprising to me that KC passed Cleveland and Cincy (slightly larger metros) in raw GMP growth. KC has been losing a lot of jobs in last 6 months though. Hope it picks back up soon.
Jackson County, MO has been in negative economic growth ever since 2000.
The economic stats for KC would be closer to Cleveland or Cincinnati without JOCO.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 12:10 PM
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin
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^Most of Ohio, Cincy and Cleveland included have been slammed through the econmic downturn and generally don't have industries as diverse as some of their midwestern counterparts.
Most of Ohio is the Midwest...
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Unread 04-07-2011, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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^I know. I can see how you could read what I said differently though. I mean that those two cities don't have as diversified economy as some of the other midwestern cities.

How about change counterpart to brethren.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Old Hyde Park, Kansas City,MO
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Jackson County, MO has been in negative economic growth ever since 2000.
The economic stats for KC would be closer to Cleveland or Cincinnati without JOCO.
You could say that for most of the cities on this list. Chicago would probably be down if it wasn't for Kane, Dupage, Will or Lake county,counties with lots of growth and big industries located in these counties.

What goes up usually goes down and what goes down usually goes up.

So in 10 years we might be saying that Jackson County has seen growth and JOCO is on a negative growth.
Don't you think in 30 years the city of Detroit's economy will have grown from it present state?
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Unread 04-07-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Even with all the KS poaching, the KS side of the state line is not doing as well as the MO side:

Kansas City metro loses 5,200 jobs, sits at 9.2% unemployment | Kansas City Business Journal
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Unread 04-07-2011, 01:25 PM
 
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Jackson County, MO has been in negative economic growth ever since 2000.
The economic stats for KC would be closer to Cleveland or Cincinnati without JOCO.
Well it's a metro stat. All metros have stronger counties than others. Not sure what point you are trying to make. It's no news that JoCo is strong, but it doesn't carry the entire weight for the metro. See a few posts above, financial services bring more GMP than pro biz services. Many if not most of the finance/insurance companies are on the MO side. The MO side still carries most of the white collar office space overall (see the Office Space thread).

JoCo is economically great, we get it but simply doesn't carry most of the weight for the metro GMP. I'd be surprised of JaxCo economy is down there with Cleve/Cincy. Downtown alone has a lot of financial/insurance companies, law firms, Hallmark and many of the metro Fed jobs.

Not sure why you are turning this into a county superiority thing. Many metros have stronger counties outside the core county - so it goes.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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Even with all the KS poaching, the KS side of the state line is not doing as well as the MO side:

Kansas City metro loses 5,200 jobs, sits at 9.2% unemployment | Kansas City Business Journal

That's a pretty bleak article. Barely better than Las Vegas is not what we like to see. It seems KC never got as bad as some areas, but they're really struggling in their recovery. I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on why that might be.
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Unread 04-07-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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That's a pretty bleak article. Barely better than Las Vegas is not what we like to see. It seems KC never got as bad as some areas, but they're really struggling in their recovery. I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on why that might be.
I'm not sure, but KC has never struggled through a ressesion like it has with this one. KC usually doesn't get the booms or busts, but it seems to have busted this time.

It's why both my wife and I are now on the east coast. We both have very strong resumes and could always easily find a job and I have heard not a peep from KC and my resume is still out there, has been for two years now.

Same deal with the wife.

(my brother was laid off last week from his job in Lenexa, my father has been out of work there for almost two years and I'm starting to wonder if my kc home will ever reach its 2006 value again.)
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