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Old 10-19-2011, 11:10 AM
Location: Washington, DC area
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downtown kc is okay, seventh in the country? I'm not so sure. That list of cities is odd and the fact that they include the plaza is wierd.

But it's great pub for kc and kc's downtown has probably had the most dramatic transformation in the entire country over the past decade. That alone is worthy of the publicity even if it may not be the 7th best. In 1990, it wouldn't have cracked the top 100.

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Old 10-19-2011, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xenokc View Post
How is it not? The Loop is far more walkable than more modern downtowns given that the streets are very narrow as downtown existed before cars did. Grand St is the only wide street in the Loop that isn't exactly ped friendly.

One way streets are also considered ped friendly, not car friendly, which downtown has quite a few of. So it's odd to say that downtown caters to cars over pedestrians - at least the Loop.
Well for one, the density in many areas outside the CBD is pretty low. The Crossroads, while I love it, is populated with empty lots, surface parking lots, empty buildings. Not exactly enticing for pedestrians. It can still be hazardous to cross the street in many areas, even in the CBD. You have to manually press the "walk button" to cross, which is not required in most vibrant downtowns (it automatically goes to "walk" when the appropriate street turns red)

Its better than say 119th and Metcalf, but compared to a lot of other downtowns, I wouldn't say I'd prefer strolling through ours over theirs.

I'm not trying to diss our downtown either, kcmo is right, we've made a lot of strides and on nights when there's a lot going on in the CBD, its an absolutely fantastic place to be.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:25 AM
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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What a joke! I agree that Chicago and Portland have great downtowns, but Indy and KC are on the list an not Denver? I guess Forbes hasn't been to Denver.

Not that KC hasn't come a long way, but Indy? I was there recently and it reminded me of downtown KC prior to the Crossroads/PAC/P&L district.
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:53 PM
Location: KC Area
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Downtown KC is getting back in there. But many great cities were left out (Denver, Minneapolis, SF). But it is awesome that we are getting notoriety. Its not like it some small survey, its Forbes! Good for KC, we have come a long way
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