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Old 03-02-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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You really need to work on your reading comprehension. My children do better. Seriously.

Best conference in America? Says who? Based on what?
Typical beaker response, don't like the message take shots at the messenger. Lame! but not unexpected.

Why don't you address the issue of your team nickname? A nickname that is so despicable that your school was sued
over it! http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-footb...eola-missouri/

Only a beaker would be proud of a name that is associated with the terrorists of the 1800's.

Here's another example of classy ku! From the ESPN article on Perry Jones III:

"When Jones jogged through the tunnel at Kansas last month, a middle-aged man screamed at him in the concourse, calling him a "second-rounder" and a "[wussy]." Sensing a confrontation, teammate Quincy Acy pushed Jones back and walked toward the fan, who sprinted away."

 
Old 03-02-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Typical beaker response, don't like the message take shots at the messenger. Lame! but not unexpected.

Why don't you address the issue of your team nickname? A nickname that is so despicable that your school was sued
over it! Osceola, Mo. Demands Kansas Drop Jayhawks Nickname | SportsGrid

Only a beaker would be proud of a name that is associated with the terrorists of the 1800's.

Here's another example of classy ku! From the ESPN article on Perry Jones III:

"When Jones jogged through the tunnel at Kansas last month, a middle-aged man screamed at him in the concourse, calling him a "second-rounder" and a "[wussy]." Sensing a confrontation, teammate Quincy Acy pushed Jones back and walked toward the fan, who sprinted away."

My god, get off the mascot. It's the name of the mascot. Deal with it. Why not address my responses instead of focusing on one particular thing in every post.

Why do you not address the things I said? How is what I posted proof that Jayhawks are scum? I wasnt saying new things, I was repeating things that fans and people associated with the SEC have said and done.

By doing so, that does not make me scum or KU scum. It is simply pointing out past behaviors of another party. So, either you dont know how to comprehend what is being read or you do not understand simple discussion.

We have already listed tons of things MU fans have done in the past to KU players and coaches. It goes all ways. If you dont realize that, you are very ignorant to the sports world. As someone who spent time working on a bench of a professional sports team I can tell you things get much worse than that. I was threatened before and I was 11 years old and it was an adult that did it. That is just how sports are. Sometimes it brings out the worst in people and if you think it is isolated to KU, you are a fool.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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My god, get off the mascot. It's the name of the mascot. Deal with it. Why not address my responses instead of focusing on one particular thing in every post.

Why do you not address the things I said? How is what I posted proof that Jayhawks are scum? I wasnt saying new things, I was repeating things that fans and people associated with the SEC have said and done.

By doing so, that does not make me scum or KU scum. It is simply pointing out past behaviors of another party. So, either you dont know how to comprehend what is being read or you do not understand simple discussion.

We have already listed tons of things MU fans have done in the past to KU players and coaches. It goes all ways. If you dont realize that, you are very ignorant to the sports world. As someone who spent time working on a bench of a professional sports team I can tell you things get much worse than that. I was threatened before and I was 11 years old and it was an adult that did it. That is just how sports are. Sometimes it brings out the worst in people and if you think it is isolated to KU, you are a fool.
So your admitting the use of that name for your mascot is indefensible, that's a good start! In case you haven't noticed it's the mascot that helps continue the hate between the two schools and states.
It's a constant reminder of a past that most have managed to put in their rear view mirror. Classless kU can't figure that out and instead flaunts that history.

By the way, I am not interested in your opinions on other schools behavior. My posts are consistent in staying on topic (jayhawk name = scum). If you can't do the same please move on.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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Ok, one more. I came accross this on a board on STLToday.com. It is said to be an email from a Mizzou equipment person:

[LEFT]This a true story told to me by a friend of mine ________the MU basketball equipment manager:

Friday afternoon the Tigers arrived by charter bus in Lawrence. Checking into the Marriott they were met by hotel personnel and told the bus could not park here and were given a spot roughly 300 yards from the hotel entrance. Kit and his crew asked for hotel carts to transport luggage, etc, they were told no carts available. So the team and coaches packed their stuff 300 yards to the Marriott.

They then proceeded to wait in the lobby for over an hour to get checked in all the while being harassed by KU fans. That is OK. When the players were allowed in their rooms the phones contantly rang as the hotel had given out players room numbers to ANYONE who saw fit to call. This would go on until wee hours of the morning until the hotel turned the phones off. Backing up no meals were prepared for the team so they had to wait. Coaches contacted Phog Allen fieldhouse personnel for a shoot around Friday night. Could not do as for some reason KU had scheduled a womens game, never done before in KU/MU history. Only time available 8am the next morning??

Gets better, no shoot around so team assembles in banquet room at the Marriott for film session. Chairs and tables piled in the corner and the room filled with MUCK FIZZOU signs throughout the room. That's OK now let's watch the film OK but where is the video equipment that was to be provided? No one at the hotel could seem to find it??? NO film session. After a long and sleepless night the TIgers get some cold breakfast and head to Phog.

.... One last thing another friend of mine and a party of 6 were at the game. Sitting under one basket, standing up as KU fans in front and behind them were standing up. 3 KU ushers/security people approached my friend and his group, told them to sit down or they would be escorted out of Phog.


Read more: Mizzou fans must read | Sports Forums - Bernie's Press Box (http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=868100#ixzz1nxzSjB1b - broken link)[/LEFT]
I saw that on another site. Honestly, I don't think there is any truth to it. For one, there is a Springhill Suites in Lawrence that is owned by Marriott, but there's no Marriott Hotel in Lawrence. Also, that Springhill Suites is right by downtown Lawrence, a block from Mass Street. I really doubt MU is going to take their team down a block from Mass Street. I also heard that MU didn't even stay in Lawrence the night before the game (and why would they anyway?).

Seriously, I think this is something made up by an MU fan to discredit Kansas.

There was a women's game at AFH the night before, and that game had been scheduled for a long time. Another thing that makes me think this whole thing is bogus, because wouldn't managers for MU's team work out details like where they were going to practice, checking into the hotel, etc. before they rolled into Lawrence?

Video equipment? What Marriott wouldn't have video equipment? Doesn't ring true. And something else that would have been worked out in advance of their arrival.

Also, I don't think the parking lot of Springhill Suites is 300 yards long, so that makes no sense, either. And why couldn't the players unboard at the door and then the bus be parked?

And I doubt a hotel is in cahootz with KU to diss MU. Any Marriott owned hotel is a national chain. I don't believe the story at all.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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So your admitting the use of that name for your mascot is indefensible, that's a good start! In case you haven't noticed it's the mascot that helps continue the hate between the two schools and states.
It's a constant reminder of a past that most have managed to put in their rear view mirror. Classless kU can't figure that out and instead flaunts that history.

By the way, I am not interested in your opinions on other schools behavior. My posts are consistent in staying on topic (jayhawk name = scum). If you can't do the same please move on.
I went to KU. I never had any orientation at KU telling me that the Jayhawk was a symbol from the Civil War and that it meant we hated Missouri and all the things Mizzou fans bring up. No one ever talked about that. All that I learned from MISSOURI fans. What Jayhawk was to me was a blue and red mythical bird, our mascot. Never the things MU fans talk about. There were never people walking around campus or dorms or games or downtown Lawrence or anywhere talking about any of those meanings for Jayhawk. It's MU who perpetuates that and gets all upset about it. No other team in the conference has a problem with our mascot. And from what I have read, after the Civil War was over "Jayhawker" was a term that simply meant Kansans, not anything else.

And since MU is leaving the Big 12 and we won't be playing them anymore, and no one else seems to have a problem with the name, it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I went to KU. I never had any orientation at KU telling me that the Jayhawk was a symbol from the Civil War and that it meant we hated Missouri and all the things Mizzou fans bring up. No one ever talked about that. All that I learned from MISSOURI fans. What Jayhawk was to me was a blue and red mythical bird, our mascot. Never the things MU fans talk about. There were never people walking around campus or dorms or games or downtown Lawrence or anywhere talking about any of those meanings for Jayhawk. It's MU who perpetuates that and gets all upset about it. No other team in the conference has a problem with our mascot. And from what I have read, after the Civil War was over "Jayhawker" was a term that simply meant Kansans, not anything else.

And since MU is leaving the Big 12 and we won't be playing them anymore, and no one else seems to have a problem with the name, it doesn't really matter anyway.
But it's the same thing as when KU fans rip on MO for being a slave or confederate state. 99.9% of the people at MU probably never ever think about MO being a confederate state back in the civil war. But I have heard it MANY times from KU fans including most KU fans I know personally which are friends mine. It's all part of the rivalry. You find reasons to rip on the other guys, especially things you know that will get under their skin, even if doing it a passive aggressive way, which how most of my friends would do it or how I might respond.

In other threads or even this one, you have stated that MU fans are far more immature and mean than KU fans. I think it's been proven in this thread and others that their are mean spirited fans and a lot of actual hate coming from both sides.

This rivalry is as real as a rivalry could possibly get and it comes from both sides.

It's so deep that KU and MU will continue to hate each with a passion even if they never play each other again so they may as well keep playing.

It is what it is.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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But it's the same thing as when KU fans rip on MO for being a slave or confederate state. 99.9% of the people at MU probably never ever think about MO being a confederate state back in the civil war. But I have heard it MANY times from KU fans including most KU fans I know personally which are friends mine. It's all part of the rivalry. You find reasons to rip on the other guys, especially things you know that will get under their skin, even if doing it a passive aggressive way, which how most of my friends would do it or how I might respond.

In other threads or even this one, you have stated that MU fans are far more immature and mean than KU fans. I think it's been proven in this thread and others that their are mean spirited fans and a lot of actual hate coming from both sides.

This rivalry is as real as a rivalry could possibly get and it comes from both sides.

It's so deep that KU and MU will continue to hate each with a passion even if they never play each other again so they may as well keep playing.

It is what it is.
And this from someone who claims to care nothing about college sports.



The Jayhawk mascot is going to stay, whether Missouri likes it or not. If they choose to be "butthurt" (one of their favorite terms) over it, so be it. They can take it to mean whatever they want. Like I said, it doesn't matter anymore because no other schools find it offensive and we won't be playing Missouri anymore anyway. And the Civil War ended almost 150 years ago. Time to get over it. It has nothing to do with anyone living today. Nothing to be "butthurt" over.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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And this from someone who claims to care nothing about college sports.


I don't, but I still talk smack and mess around. I'm a guy, I like sports in general and follow MU and KU just enough that others know who I would pull for.

At my job in DC there is a KU fan on my floor. He is not your typical KU fan and rarely even watches games or knows when they play or who they are playing, much like me with MU.

We both still take the time to come by and say something to each other before or after a KU/MU game or we might place a friendly bet (lunch or something). Like I said, typically neither one of us has any idea how MU or KU is doing, who they are playing next or if they won or lost the night before, but we have fun with it non the less.

It's like that.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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I don't, but I still talk smack and mess around. I'm a guy, I like sports in general and follow MU and KU just enough that others know who I would pull for.

At my job in DC there is a KU fan on my floor. He is not your typical KU fan and rarely even watches games or knows when they play or who they are playing, much like me with MU.

We both still take the time to come by and say something to each other before or after a KU/MU game or we might place a friendly bet (lunch or something). Like I said, typically neither one of us has any idea how MU or KU is doing, who they are playing next or if they won or lost the night before, but we have fun with it non the less.

It's like that.
I'm not sure you are a guy. You'd better check.
 
Old 03-02-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I'm not sure you are a guy. You'd better check.
Well, not that it matters because my wife is into college sports WAY more than me.

I do get into MLB, NFL and NHL and have lots of jerseys of each, Royals, Cards, Chiefs, Avs and Caps (that I wear to games, not to the mall ).
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