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Old 01-19-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RjRobb2 View Post
Exactly. When the MU board was making this decision, the guys on it from KC which I believe are only like two of them were very much against it. Our governor which is a St. Louis guy had everyone else in his pocket and they finally pushed for the moved and screwed over their second biggest city.
Having grown up in Illinois (rural) I am accutely aware of how a certain dominant section of a state (chicago) can be a much bigger threat to your economic and other welfare than neighboring states.

 
Old 01-19-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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It's important to note that MU made this decision with MU's best interests at heart. There may be a gain or a loss to KCMO as a result but rest assured that MU doesn't give a fig other than how it impacts their revenues and football program exposure.

Just something to mull over when considering whom to *blame*.
I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just saying that it's silly to not play MU just because you don't like that the moved.

And KU might fill Sprint Center, but a half full arena with 5-10k people from out of town is probably better for KC than 18k that drove downtown from around the metro and Lawrence.

Just saying work with MU and keep some big games and or tourneys in KC. I know KU is mad, but who's to say that KU wouldn't have done the same thing if they were in the same position?
 
Old 01-19-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just saying that it's silly to not play MU just because you don't like that the moved.
You're simplying matters.

I asked this before and you did not answer so I will ask again.

Let's say you have a business partner and you have a contract with said partner and you recently signed some contracts together that will bring big revenues to your firm. On top of that, you have agreed that even with your business struggling, you will stick with it. Then, one day your business partner walks into your office, packs his stuff and said he found a new partner that will offer him a bigger percentage of profits. This partner has put your business in danger and left you high and drive jeopardizing your recently signed contracts.

Would you turn around and do business with this person after he leaves? Probably not because that would be stupid and make you an idiot.

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I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just saying that it's silly to not play MU just because you don't like that the moved. And KU might fill Sprint Center, but a half full arena with 5-10k people from out of town is probably better for KC than 18k that drove downtown from around the metro and Lawrence.
Like I said, it is more than them just not liking that they moved. It is continuing to do business with a business partner that straight ****ed you over.

Where are you getting a half full arena with 5k to 10k people from out of town from?


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Just saying work with MU and keep some big games and or tourneys in KC. I know KU is mad, but who's to say that KU wouldn't have done the same thing if they were in the same position?
Do you think KU could not have jumped conferences if they wanted? They offer more than MU does. The Big 12 North schools had an agreement that they would stick by each other.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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I'm not blaming anybody, I'm just saying that it's silly to not play MU just because you don't like that the moved.

And KU might fill Sprint Center, but a half full arena with 5-10k people from out of town is probably better for KC than 18k that drove downtown from around the metro and Lawrence.

Just saying work with MU and keep some big games and or tourneys in KC. I know KU is mad, but who's to say that KU wouldn't have done the same thing if they were in the same position?
In your thread title and opening post you are blaming KU and their fans for killing the rivalry.

MU left the Big 12, hopefully that works out for the metro revenues etc. but that was a unilateral decision made by MU.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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What exactly do they gain? They can sellout the Sprint Center playing anybody so why play a game where they would have to split 50-50 with MU?

In football, why would you play MU when you can play someone like Murray State in non-con and get a win to pad your bowl eligibility. It sucks college football works like that but it is a very flawed system. MU wants to play KU right now but once KU has an upswing and are competitive again, they will not want to anymore. They are now playing in the SEC and are going to have a hard time getting conference wins which means they need to sweep their non-con to get into bowls.
You don't think rivalries are good an important for college athletic programs? That's what I mean by KU's gain. It creates long-term, generational loyalty. You can't buy that kind of thing.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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MU made the decision to leave the Big 12. Why WOULD KU want to play them when they will be in a different conference? KU didn't leave, MU did. Why are you trying to blame KU?
 
Old 01-19-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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You don't think rivalries are good an important for college athletic programs? That's what I mean by KU's gain. It creates long-term, generational loyalty. You can't buy that kind of thing.
Trust me, I am a diehard sports fan and rivalries are one of my favorite things about it and there is a part of me that wants it to continue. But, being that MU left the conference and playing them does little for KU on a financial or national reputation standpoint, there just isnt a reason for it to continue.

I think they will eventually play each other even if it is every few years. I could see them being matched up in a bowl game sometime by the bowl committees or put in the same bracket as the NCAA tournament.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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MU made the decision to leave the Big 12. Why WOULD KU want to play them when they will be in a different conference? KU didn't leave, MU did. Why are you trying to blame KU?
Because kcmo hates everything KU and more specifically KANSAS...he can't stand it when he sees someone wearing a KU hat at a Royals game (it reminds him of KANSAS)....he's mentioned that many times on this forum and KCRag. He'll say how much he likes Lawrence, but then go on and mention how stupid people look when they have a KU hat or sweatshirt on. But I believe he honestly thinks he has never seen a MU fan wearing an MU hat or sweatshirt, it's all us poor Kansans that are from rural towns that don't know how to dress. Maybe it's because there are 4x as many KU alums in the metro as there are MU alums

And yes, I believe he was living here in 2007 when KU and MU were ranked #2 and #3 and it was a nationally televised game...my friends in NYC, who all went to KU, watched it.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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Let's cut to the chase here, folks.

Now, I've been away far too long to get into the nuts and bolts nitty-gritty of what going on in KC region college sports. No matter, because that is all beside the point and irrelevant to the reason it was posted.

The entire transparent purpose of this troll thread is to vent more anti-Kansas contempt. These threads should be deleted upon arrival.
 
Old 01-19-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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Because kcmo hates everything KU...he can't stand it when he sees someone wearing a KU hat at a Royals game....he's mentioned that many times on this forum and KCRag. He'll say how much he likes Lawrence, but then go on and mention how stupid people look when they have a KU hat or sweatshirt on. But I believe he honestly thinks he has never seen a MU fan wearing an MU hat or sweatshirt, it's all us poor Kansans that are from rural towns that don't know how to dress. Maybe it's because there are 4x as many KU alums in the metro as there are MU alums

And yes, I believe he was living here in 2007 when KU and MU were ranked #2 and #3 and it was a nationally televised game...my friends in NYC, who all went to KU, watched it.
Thank you.

Didn't see your post 'til I finished mine. Well said.
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