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Old 01-30-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Agree.

The only voices of dissent I've heard are alumni, and I don't personally know many MU almni. I do know a lot of MU fans, and they're pretty much universally gleeful about joining the SEC (which only confirms what I've always suspected about the Missouri fanbase).
Most of the Mizzou fans I knew wanted to move to the Big Ten, as did the alumni. The only real reason I think we picked the SEC was because the Big Twelve crumbled as a desirable place to remain, and we got fed up with waiting for the Big Ten to say yes, so we went with the next best match. As far as being gleeful about joining the SEC....that's got more to do with the quality of the teams than it does regions. Everyone i've ever spoken to, and even the reporters of ESPN, have said Mizzou is a "Midwestern university in the SEC."

 
Old 01-30-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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That's a good rule. Fortunately, Mizzou outranks KU academically:


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I was aware of that.

I am also of the mind that the the University of Kansas places way too much stock in in basketball pedigree. To the detriment of Kansans and KU students, and it would take a miraculous orator to convince me otherwise.
 
Old 01-31-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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That's a good rule. Fortunately, Mizzou outranks KU academically:


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Actually, they dont. That list means very little to nothing. They use about 4 different statistics to put together that list versus the ones that use dozens if not hundreds of statistics. It's put together by a magazine and there is no weight behind it. There was a thread here awhile back where someone posted several list (the ones that actually mean something such as the Shanghai rankings) and KU outranks MU in every single one.
 
Old 01-31-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Actually, they dont. That list means very little to nothing. They use about 4 different statistics to put together that list versus the ones that use dozens if not hundreds of statistics. It's put together by a magazine and there is no weight behind it. There was a thread here awhile back where someone posted several list (the ones that actually mean something such as the Shanghai rankings) and KU outranks MU in every single one.
I was not aware of that.

But I don't care. Undergraduate state school education is largely what students make of it. These kind of lists are pretty arbitrary at best and silly at worst. I understand that individual graduate school program ratings have some justification in the real world, and to a lesser degree a few marquee undergad programs (like MU's J-school) have some obvious weight, but I don't think there's any real difference in the education level and capabilities of the average bachelor's-level graduate from MU, KU, U of O, or FSU.
 
Old 01-31-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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I was not aware of that.

But I don't care. Undergraduate state school education is largely what students make of it. These kind of lists are pretty arbitrary at best and silly at worst. I understand that individual graduate school program ratings have some justification in the real world, and to a lesser degree a few marquee undergad programs (like MU's J-school) have some obvious weight, but I don't think there's any real difference in the education level and capabilities of the average bachelor's-level graduate from MU, KU, U of O, or FSU.
You're right. The difference between KU and MU is marginal at best. A good friend of my mother-in-law is a retired professor and she spends a month a summer in D.C. reviewing data about universities all over the country for the sake of accreditation, funding, etc. She has told me that the difference is very little but if her kids were choosing between the two she would push them to go to KU. She said that she likes the staff a lot better and student's rate their experience better there.
 
Old 01-31-2012, 11:50 PM
 
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I believe that in a perfect world, the MU-KU rivalry would be preserved and the Big Ten would have accepted both of us, as that is where the most similar culture and proper regional grouping exists.
 
Old 02-02-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Most of the Mizzou fans I knew wanted to move to the Big Ten, as did the alumni. The only real reason I think we picked the SEC was because the Big Twelve crumbled as a desirable place to remain, and we got fed up with waiting for the Big Ten to say yes, so we went with the next best match. As far as being gleeful about joining the SEC....that's got more to do with the quality of the teams than it does regions. Everyone i've ever spoken to, and even the reporters of ESPN, have said Mizzou is a "Midwestern university in the SEC."
This.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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KU fans hanging out in Mill Creek Park near the Plaza. I don't even know what the point of this video is, but check these guys out? Are they for KU or not becaue they are seriously dorking it up. I think that guy I saw at BWI the other day was one of them though


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Old 02-05-2012, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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KU fans hanging out in Mill Creek Park near the Plaza. I don't even know what the point of this video is, but check these guys out? Are they for KU or not becaue they are seriously dorking it up. I think that guy I saw as BWI the other day was one of them though


"We Are KU" Music Video - YouTube


Some white guys from MU made up this "We are MU" video that is super cheezy. It is three white MU kids trying to rap and adding autotuning to their voice. MU fans are super embarrassed by it. This video is basically a spoof of the MU video which was really, really bad. The MU video is on Youtube if you can find it. It is really good comedy no matter who you support.
 
Old 02-05-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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Some white guys from MU made up this "We are MU" video that is super cheezy. It is three white MU kids trying to rap and adding autotuning to their voice. MU fans are super embarrassed by it. This video is basically a spoof of the MU video which was really, really bad. The MU video is on Youtube if you can find it. It is really good comedy no matter who you support.
Ahh, so they are mocking something mu fans made haha.

BTW, we watched the game. What a game. I was sure from the start that KU would win that.

I don't watch much basketball at all. We went to a Wizards game last week and it was so freaking boring. The wizards are terrible. So this is a case where I'm liking college bb more than the pros when it's typically the other way around.

Anyway, still seems silly for KU and MU to not play anymore. But good luck to both.
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