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Old 02-01-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I love live music and have been to many concerts in my day, but why does it seem to me as if many of the alternative rock/indie bands skip Kansas City on their tours? There have been multiple times when some of my favorite artists have skipped Kansas City in favor of cities such as Des Moines, Omaha, Iowa City, or Columbia.

Talking to people in the city - it doesn't seem like the interest is an issue. I've met many, many people who have similar tastes in music to me and the band I'm referring to shouldn't have a problem filling a mid-sized venue (700-1,500 people).

So does anyone have any input why these artists skip this market of over 2,000,000 people? I've heard mumblings of shotty promoters at some of the venues in town being a cause for part of it, and I've noticed the lack of venues - with the Midtown and the Beaumont Club being the only 2 real music-friendly mid-sized venues.

Any reason why a city the size of KC doesn't have a House of Blues or a Hard Rock Cafe? I know there are both of these in much smaller markets than KC, and I would think with KC being the home of Blues, that we would have one, if not both, of them.
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Old 02-01-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Some touring bands split between KC and Lawrence if not hitting both. Most college targeted music don't really skip the KC 'market', many go to Lawrence, which is considered part of KC concert market. I'd be surprised if Omaha/Des Moines/Columbia get touring bands that skip KC/Lawrence. Might happen though if bands are touring the northern route Chicago>MSP>Denver with stops in Omaha/Des Moines. But next tour might be Chicago>STL>Columbia>KC>Dallas. Just depends on leg of tours.

I would hope KC doesn't get a Hard Rock Cafe, that's passť and they don't get many touring bands anymore. This shows nearly all do not get any bands and those that do only get a couple.

Event Search | Pollstar

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Looking at Omaha and KC on Pollstar, Omaha/Lincoln currently have 170 events lined up, KC/Lawrence have 250, STL metro has 277. That's winter... summer usually shows about 400 events. At times, KC has more events than St. Louis.

If Omaha is getting music you like, it's probably college oriented, which tends to hit Lawrence. Some hit Westport or Crossroads area, but more often in summer. Would agree though, winter lineups are relatively poor. The Pitch schedule is however loaded with local bands that play around Midtown/Downtown.

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Old 02-01-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Checking Pollstar, KC doesn't seem to be lacking in tours relative to market size. And tours in general are lower for all Midwest cities in the winter.

As of Feb 1, Pollstar events listed...

KC 250
STL 278
Columbus 196
Indy 233
Cleveland 297
Cincy 205
Milwaukee 237

Seems KC is about right relative to market size. Granted with KC some tours, especially altie/college rock, may go to Lawrence.

Kansas City Tour Dates | Pollstar
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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I've noticed this too. I'd check the tour dates of a lot of fairly big bands, and a lot of them hit up Omaha, and Springfield, but not us. Is it because the beaumont club sucks? We have no good venues (well, Uptown isn't bad), and several crappy ones. Is it something weird with the fanbase? It seems we lean more towards rap or country than to actual music.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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Again, many hit Lawrence since it's considered part of KC concert market. From what I can tell, Omaha/Lincoln combined get less than KC/Lawrence.

BTW, I'm pretty sure Beaumont Club is still booked by same group who do House of Blues in other markets. They tend to get many of the same touring shows.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I've always thought KC has a fantastic set of venues for bands to choose from...(Sprint Center, Hale Arena, Kemper, Uptown, Midland, Crossroads Station, Starlight, Sandstone, plus the various casinos that have live stages). Also the canopy section of PnL has quite a few concerts in the summer. You also have smaller venues like Knuckleheads and Beaumont that seemed booked all the time.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: University City
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I've always thought that the local Kansas City music scene punched well above it's weight for a midwestern city, and being a semi-isolated western-midwest interstate chokepoint did alright for touring bands, too. Say, less of the Indy to Cincy [or whatever] type trips to see touring bands that are more common in the eastern-midwest.

Then you have Lawrence as an easy trip!

I don't know how the KC music scene is "advertised," but I think it's one of the better ones in the midwest. At least it used to be.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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You arent going to land every tour and you have to realize that promoter's book talent and a lot of it is a who you know type thing so there are cases where a promoter in this city doesnt connect with a band's tour manager or booking agent. There is a lot more complexity in a band coming to play here. It isnt a matter of them skipping us in favor of another city.

The Midland is another good mid-sized venue.

Our venues - both small and large - are loaded with shows going on all the time. We have a large music scene here in KC and like others said, Lawrence is considered part of this market so you might search Lawrence too because they have a large music scene.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by stevman22889 View Post
I love live music and have been to many concerts in my day, but why does it seem to me as if many of the alternative rock/indie bands skip Kansas City on their tours? There have been multiple times when some of my favorite artists have skipped Kansas City in favor of cities such as Des Moines, Omaha, Iowa City, or Columbia.

Talking to people in the city - it doesn't seem like the interest is an issue. I've met many, many people who have similar tastes in music to me and the band I'm referring to shouldn't have a problem filling a mid-sized venue (700-1,500 people).

So does anyone have any input why these artists skip this market of over 2,000,000 people? I've heard mumblings of shotty promoters at some of the venues in town being a cause for part of it, and I've noticed the lack of venues - with the Midtown and the Beaumont Club being the only 2 real music-friendly mid-sized venues.

Any reason why a city the size of KC doesn't have a House of Blues or a Hard Rock Cafe? I know there are both of these in much smaller markets than KC, and I would think with KC being the home of Blues, that we would have one, if not both, of them.
Good question!! Kansas City is sorely lacking in so many areas of culture and diversity! It's hard to talk anyone into visiting Kansas City when they have an interest in enjoying activities other than the mundane.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:41 PM
 
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Odd someone talking about mundane yet wanting an outdated venue such as Hard Rock Cafe. I smell a troll. In most cities, HRC rarely books touring shows anymore. If they want to come fine but it's like desiring a McDonalds. There are dozens of far better venues in KC.

For a metro its size, KC/Lawrence does pretty well drawing tours (more than ST Louis at times). Here are Pollstar tracked events lined up for various metros...

If KC is mundane for you then probably any mid sized city would be to you.

KC 351 events (as of 6.21.12)
Kansas City Tour Dates | Pollstar

STL 350
St. Louis Tour Dates | Pollstar

Cincy 312
Cincinnati Tour Dates | Pollstar

Columbus 272
Columbus Tour Dates | Pollstar

Indy 284
Indianapolis Tour Dates | Pollstar

Milwaukee 281
Milwaukee Tour Dates | Pollstar

Pittsburgh 386
Pittsburgh Tour Dates | Pollstar

Tampa 238
Tampa Tour Dates | Pollstar

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