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Old 02-16-2012, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ykamom View Post
I don't see what "adult entertainment" has to do with liberalism. Seems like a euphemism for exploitation of women, particularly vulnerable young women, and a venue for trafficking and human rights abuses. Cities like Saigon and Bangkok have more "adult entertainment" than any city in this country, and the true liberal values of freedoms, equality, and human dignity seem to be lacking in those places.
The liberal in me would like to see a city where human dignity is respected, and less people, particularly young women, are exploited for the entertainment of wealthy businessmen.
I might not agree with Bartle and his agendas, but I can't see defending this industry in the name of keeping revenue in KC.
Plenty of men and women manage to travel the world for business and avoid strip clubs. If that's where we have to go to attract travelers, heaven help us.
Exploitation of women? Ok I'm not going to say this doesn't happen (though I doubt it happens much here in KC if at all), but I've known people in the industry. It's not for everyone, but plenty of girls actually like it and see it as easy money, and would in fact say they are taking advantage of desperate men.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MUTGR View Post
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but at some level, all laws are an expression of morality.

Just curious if you support any of the following:

Stricter gun laws.
Higher income taxes.
Higher minimum wage laws.
Making same sex marriages legal.
Smoking bans.
Passing laws to mandate increased public funding for embryonic stem cell research.
Issuing executive orders to mandate employers cover birth control pills.
Abortion on demand.
Passing federal laws that mandate individuals must purchase health insurance.

I would suggest liberals love to "...have the government get in citizens personal business and force their opinions of morality on other people."
What part of what you listed forces an opinion on someone else?

Stricter gun laws? I've got a gun, had to do a background check.. big deal?

Income taxes, isn't an opinion.... it's providing for services all Americans use.

Same sex marriage doesn't hurt anyone. If it was made legal, it doesn't force you to go out and be gay all of a sudden.

Smokin bans are in place for health reasons, no different then seat belts. Smoking being unhealthy isn't an opinion to be forced on others.

Stem cell research doesn't force an opinion on anyone. Government funding has gone to religious organizations or religious backed organizations, I don't feel like they are forcing me to be Christian or whatever due to this.

Having a religious organization cover birth control doesn't violate anything (and besides now they don't have to with the new compromise), it doesn't FORCE a catholic to take birth control (tho the majority of catholic women already due and this is only an issue because of old men trying to force their antiquated opinion.)

And to the biggest point of all Democrats and liberals don't make the claim that Republicans do, saying government should stay out of peoples personal business. That is one of the #1 conservative lines, and yet we had a conservative state legislature push their opinion on everyone.
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