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Old 02-19-2012, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City
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I've been trying to figure out a way to introduce this topic without offending anybody and this is the best I can do. Now growing up near Chicago, it was pretty segregated, although granted it was the 70s/80s. But people stuck to their own neighborhoods and avoided the others at all costs. I went to school about 30 miles south of Chicago, but it was still extremely rare to see students of other races.

Seattle on the other hand, where I've spent the better part of the last 20 years, is very mixed. Each race does have their own community, but there are no unwritten rules about where people live, mixed neighborhoods are common, but even if they weren't, it would not raise eyebrows or ruffle any feathers if a white guy suddenly moved into a black neighborhood or vice versa, Seattle is a very diverse, tolerant city.

So how is the atmosphere in KC? Would it be unusual for a white guy to be seen on a bus going down Troost? What about those neighborhoods? I've heard about the P/L dress code issues, any resolution there? Or did it just die away?

Again, no flaming, I really am just curious about what to expect in my adopted city.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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Brave question. I lived in Portland for 3 years, and similarly it was a tolerant and diverse community. The St. Louis / KC area has a lot of work to do (on both sides).
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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Seattle and Portland are 2 of the whitest cities in the country. I know that in terms of metropolitan population, those difference become quite a bit less stark, or even non-existent, but its not really fair to compare race relations in 2 cities with no significant history or cultural legacy of racial diversity with 2 cities that are 40 and 55 percent non-white repsectively and have large, historic black communities that existed prior to the civil rights movement and whose legacy comes out of the great migration.
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I have noticed that north of the river than the population of African-Americans, Hispanic, and Asians has increased significantly just from me seeing people around. I live in a typical suburban, middle class neighborhood in Kansas City North and it use to be that everyone in your neighborhood was white. I think my high school only had like 7% African American when I was there in the 90s and I am willing to bet that that number has doubled in the 15 years since I was there.

In my neighborhood, the person two doors to my left is hispanic, across the street are African Americans families in three straight hours, and a Hispanic family just bought a house on my street. When I first moved into this neighborhood about 8 years ago, it was almost all white.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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It's far more likely to see middle class black people in the traditionally white middle class neighborhoods than it would be to see white people in the lower class, predominantly black, neighborhoods. Taking the Troost MAX you'd be one of the few white people, but probably not the only. Anymore east than that, however, and it's essentially 100% black.

Also, +1 to everything s. davis said.

As to P&L, yes, the issues with the dress code appear to have fallen out of the forefront.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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KC is getting more mixed up, even JoCo, which used to be far more white than it is today. There are a few ethnic centers like Latinos on W Side and central KCK and various immigrants on KCMOs NE Side but for the most part, the city core is very mixed up and many of the burbs are trending to be more mixed up than any specific race/ethnicity.

Is interesting how in NYC/Chicago/LA there is more diversity in public/work places but when it comes to the neighborhoods, there is more distinct ethnic specific hoods and white specific hoods than most would think.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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It's far more likely to see middle class black people in the traditionally white middle class neighborhoods than it would be to see white people in the lower class, predominantly black, neighborhoods. Taking the Troost MAX you'd be one of the few white people, but probably not the only. Anymore east than that, however, and it's essentially 100% black.

Also, +1 to everything s. davis said.

As to P&L, yes, the issues with the dress code appear to have fallen out of the forefront.
Being exactly on the divide, which is what Troost is, and traversing Hospital Hill and inbetween 2 universities, I don't think it's unreasonable to see white people on the Troost MAX. The Troost MAX runs along some of the wealthiest, whitest, and most educated neighborhoods in the metro, AND some of the poorest and blackest. It's an incredibly sharp divide.

Prospect is more central in the ghetto corridor, and the bus question would have be better asked about the Prospect bus. And the answer would be, yes, you'd see a few white people very now and then - poor whites that likely live on the south end of the Prospect bus line, in the Marlborough neighborhoods.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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It also depends greatly on what time you ride it -- from experience during rush commutes it's more diverse; outside of that less so. But the MAX is also very safe and I'd have no concerns about riding it!
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