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Old 03-07-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I agree with this post, however, I would say that living near DC, I have far more access to "nature" than I ever did in KC. KC has some okay lakes nearby, but mostly farms and grass. I guess if you are saying that it's easier to reach nature, I guess you could say that because of traffic, but places like DC seem to offer a lot more urban nature with huge and well utilized green corridors and state parks right in the metro area. You would not believe how busy these places are with people biking, running, kayaking etc and how extensive the urban trails and parks are here. And within an hour or two of the metro you have mountains, bays, oceans etc.
I think that it's simply a matter of you and I having different desires/preferences in terms of nature. I'm a farm kid. To me, when I talk nature, I'm talking not being in a city, surrounded by people. Urban parks are cool. But they're not nature to me...they might be to other people, but for me and how I grew up, they're just not...they're still urban. If I can occasionally have dark, starry night skies, empty gravel roads, and can hear crickets at night and no traffic sounds, and no other people around. I'm happy. When I lived in Chicago, I had to drive too far for it to be convenient to get that. In KC, it can take less than a half hour. That works well for me.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Mill Creek Park off Plaza is about as busy as it can get virtually every evening outside of winter - immigrant soccer, rugby, tai chi, volleyball, some frisbee on bike game, street theatre at fountain. Busy running path every evening. There isn't a warm evening that goes by w/out something going on unless too hot. Always always busy, even the fountain is busy late summer nights, after 10PM, weeknights too.

But downtown parks not there yet - not enough population density.
I generally run there in the very early a.m., because it's the only way to appreciate it in relative solitude. It's a tad TOO busy for my liking. It's a nice park, but I like it to myself. That requires getting up pretty early in the a.m.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I think that it's simply a matter of you and I having different desires/preferences in terms of nature. I'm a farm kid. To me, when I talk nature, I'm talking not being in a city, surrounded by people. Urban parks are cool. But they're not nature to me...they might be to other people, but for me and how I grew up, they're just not...they're still urban. If I can occasionally have dark, starry night skies, empty gravel roads, and can hear crickets at night and no traffic sounds, and no other people around. I'm happy. When I lived in Chicago, I had to drive too far for it to be convenient to get that. In KC, it can take less than a half hour. That works well for me.
Makes sense
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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St. Louis is much better than Kansas City.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: IN
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It sounds like you are open to new possibilities and KC may be a good fit for you. I have a feeling you will still like Minneapolis much better, though.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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St. Louis is much better than Kansas City.
Peanut butter is a lot better than swimming lessons.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I wanted to provide an update.....I accepted the offer this week and am starting to plan the move. I have tentatively scheduled a trip to look at housing next weekend and am just waiting for confirmation from the company on that. I also found that my temporary housing will be at 909 Walnut downtown, which looks like a very nice apartment/condo, and was actually on my list of downtown housing possibilites to check out for a rental or purchase. If anyone has any opinions or experiences with that location it would be appreciated.

Based on everyone's comments, I think I'll start my search in downtown south through the Plaza, Brookside, and Waldo areas, and look at both homes and condos. No doubt I'll have more questions after my visit next weekend.

One question I have is regarding income tax. From the research I have done I understand that KCMO has a 1% income tax for anyone who lives or works in the city, and there is also a Missouri State income tax of approximately 6%? I'm trying to compare it to what I currently have in MN, which is an overall state income tax rate of over 7%, plus it appears that property taxes are quite a bit higher if you own a home or condo.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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Is good that you'll have temp living for a while so that you can figure out which area is best for you.

Can't really personally speak to taxes compared to MSP and MN, but here is some cost of living and tax calculators...
State Tax Comparison Table
Cost of Living comparison calculator
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Not sure how accurate they are but your overall taxes and COL should be lower in KCMO than MN. Downtown has higher sales tax than rest of city/metro and property tax is higher along the planned streetcar line. MO in general ranks low-midrange in taxes, MN is top 10 high tax on most lists.

And don't know if Google Fiber is important to you, but here are the hoods getting it first...
https://fiber.google.com/cities/kcmo/#header=check

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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xenokc, thanks for all the links, I spent some time checking them all out and can see that that the COL will be quite a bit lower in KC than in MSP. MN and MSP do rank very high in total overall taxes, although I've always thought that we received good services and benefits for the taxes we pay here. However, housing, groceries, dining out, and many other basic costs are still quite higher in Minneapolis.

Yes, Google Fiber would be important. I'm an Internet Banking Product Manager, so I use the Internet extensively, both at home and work.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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Congrats on getting the job and welcome to Kansas City!

I think you will like your temporary housing in 909 Walnut, that is a nice building.
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