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Old 03-11-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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New CSA definitions came out and Lawrence and St. Joe are now part of KC Consolidated Statistical Area...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...013/b13-01.pdf

Lawrence and St. Joe have never been considered part of KC CSA or MSA.
Geographic Definitions/Statistical Areas

Expansion by adding counties is not exactly 'growth' but OTOH it may give KC region more leverage being officially acknowledged at about 2.4M population for the CSA instead of <2.2M.

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Old 03-11-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Here's the previous list of CSAs combined with metros that don't have a CSA.. KC would apparently bump up from 28th to 25th...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tistical_Areas

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Old 03-11-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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It's interesting Lawrence is attached to KC instead of a CSA with Topeka. Lawrence's relationship with JoCo must be stronger than with Topeka.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Yeah, they may as well include Topeka, which is about 60 miles from downtown KCMO. Minneapolis CSA includes St Cloud, which is exact same distance to downtown Minne. St. Joe is a little less to downtown KCMO.

The Feds apparently do not see Topeka as part of KC metro economy as Lawrence/St. Joe are.

If Topeka were included, KC CSA would be around 2.6M and would rank about 22nd.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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Lawrence, in general, does not like to be associated with Topeka. That's just personal observation.

The main economic link between Lawrence and Kansas City is KU; the medical center, cancer center and satellite campus are all in the KC metro.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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The main economic link between Lawrence and Kansas City is KU; the medical center, cancer center and satellite campus are all in the KC metro.
It's also the de facto setting for a lot of KU alumni when it comes to getting a job/home etc.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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And many from Lawrence commute to KC area in general for work. Ditto with St. Joe. Not sure what Feds criteria for CSA is but if it's still economic dependency, it apparently increased recently between KC and STJ/Lawrence.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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And many from Lawrence commute to KC area in general for work. Ditto with St. Joe. Not sure what Feds criteria for CSA is but if it's still economic dependency, it apparently increased recently between KC and STJ/Lawrence.
I doubt it. Sounds more like they just changed how they calculate CSAs and MSAs. KC gained, but so did many other cities. Portland, Charlotte etc gained huge numbers.
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Old 03-14-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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The Fed's CSA criteria apparently isn't about distance from core city as they include St. Cloud with MSP but don't include Topeka with KC CSA. St. Cloud distance to downtown Minne is essentially the same as Topeka to downtown KCMO. If it's not about distance, it might still be more about economic ties and that Lawarence/STJ economy is now more closely tied. Then again, maybe it's neither distance or economy and about political positioning. Topeka may not want to be part of KC CSA.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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Here's the previous list of CSAs combined with metros that don't have a CSA.. KC would apparently bump up from 28th to 25th...
List of United States primary statistical areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The list was updated, KC CSA now shows ranked 26th with 2,376,631 pops. STL drops to 21st.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tistical_Areas
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