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Old 03-12-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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I've been to Kansas City a few times and noticed that Overland Park and Kansas City, KS leeches off of Kansas City, MO. The city is losing out on commuter revenue on a daily basis.

I'm talking millions!!!!

See the tax free benefits Kansas receives.

1. Kansas uses the airport and doesn't pay a bit of tax.
2. Kansas reaps the benefit of having two sports teams but doesn't have any of the political or financial drama associated.
3. Kansas enjoys the Kauffman Center.
4. Kansas enjoys Worlds of Fun and Oceans of Fun
5. Kansas enjoys the Sprint Center but Missouri has the issue of trying to find an anchor tenant and the tax burden.
6. Kansas enjoys the agriculture events that frequent the Kemper arena.
7. Kansas enjoys the Plaza, and the wonderful lights.
8. Kansas enjoys the Zoo.
9. Kansas enjoys the Starlight.
10. Kansas enjoys the Power & Light District which is struggling.
11. Kansas enjoys various annual festival held in Kansas City.
12. Kansas enjoys Union Station.
13. Kansas enjoys Westport.
14. Kansas enjoys the SEA LIFE Aquarium in Crown enter.
15. Kansas enjoys the Jazz District
16. Kansas enjoys the College Basketball Experience.
17. Kansas enjoys the Casinos.
18. Kansas enjoy the art museums

The list can go on and on.

Kansas City should install toll booths at all of the major crossings entering Kansas City, MO from the Kansas side.

I 635 entering Kansas City
I 70 entering Kansas City
I 35 entering Kansas City
I 435 entering Kansas City
169 entering Kansas City

This would generate millions annually!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=334tcVm7ycU

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Old 03-12-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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You sure know a lot for someone that's been there "a few times".

Next time I visit, I'll be sure to take one of the several hundred side streets into Missouri and bypass the troll boths...
 
Old 03-12-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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It's not hard to get an understanding of a city when it's designed on a grid.

Bypass the tolls but lose time. It's faster to pay $0.75 - $1.25. LOL
 
Old 03-12-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Florida and New England
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How do you think the business owners in Brookside would react to this proposal? Or the Plaza? Or Crestwood? Or the State Line/ 39 businesses? Or Waldo? Or Red Bridge? Or Martin City?

BTW, the airport is funded largely through user fees. Johnson County would jump at the chance to build a "new KCI" out in Gardner, and this nearly happened in the 1990s.
 
Old 03-13-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Kansas City already has a "toll booth" of sorts. It's called the Earnings Tax.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Raccoon City
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Better yet, build a great wall.

Kansans don't get into most of these institutions for free. They contribute by providing business. Missouri might have to pay for these institutions, but they get to keep the returns don't they? Installing toll booths will diminish Kansans desire to go to KCMO, and encourage Johnson County to begin creating it's own, decentralizing Kansas City even more.

In fact, just today I was downtown and noticed all the KU fan's in the Power & Light District buying drinks, eating at restaurants and feeding parking meters to get ready for a big game at the Sprint Center.

...talk about cutting off the nose to spite the face.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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It works now as both sides of the state line love bitching about each other. It will eventually end and when it does, Kansas will probably "lose" this whole border war as it has far less resources and will continue to generally decline over most of the state. Water shortages and rural areas continuing to lose population and only trying to get Missouri business to move a few miles west for incentives that don't even gain the metro (or for that matter Kansas) much..

Lets be blunt here too, In general its more cool to live in an urban area now.. The younger demographic is going to generally want to live in the urban core more as time goes on which favors Missouri.
 
Old 03-14-2013, 10:04 PM
 
Location: IN
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It works now as both sides of the state line love bitching about each other. It will eventually end and when it does, Kansas will probably "lose" this whole border war as it has far less resources and will continue to generally decline over most of the state. Water shortages and rural areas continuing to lose population and only trying to get Missouri business to move a few miles west for incentives that don't even gain the metro (or for that matter Kansas) much..

Lets be blunt here too, In general its more cool to live in an urban area now.. The younger demographic is going to generally want to live in the urban core more as time goes on which favors Missouri.
The new Census update came out today and one of the only reasons Kansas registered a 1.1% increase in population between 2010-2012 was due to all the military personnel that returned to Ft. Riley (Geary County) and Manhattan (Riley County). Apparently not many have left the area yet even though the region with KSU does not support the level of new job growth related to this insane new influx of population growth... Kansas is conducting an experiement with Brownback in charge. Kansas has been in the news quite a bit lately... Today it was regarding lowering the income tax rate while increasing the sales tax rate. Less revenue coming into the state coffers from income taxes will likely mean much higher fees, property taxes, and sales taxes based on the models that other states have used. Stay tuned!
 
Old 03-15-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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I travel back and forth all the time, pretty sure I would stop if I had to wait in line at a toll booth every day.

What we really need are tolls on I70 between KC and STL to pay for the rest of MO's roads. Maybe stick a few on 44, 65, and 71 too.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Raccoon City
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Originally Posted by jbtornado View Post
It works now as both sides of the state line love bitching about each other. It will eventually end and when it does, Kansas will probably "lose" this whole border war as it has far less resources and will continue to generally decline over most of the state. Water shortages and rural areas continuing to lose population and only trying to get Missouri business to move a few miles west for incentives that don't even gain the metro (or for that matter Kansas) much..

Lets be blunt here too, In general its more cool to live in an urban area now.. The younger demographic is going to generally want to live in the urban core more as time goes on which favors Missouri.
I agree. KCMO's urban living is unmatched on the KC side, but a lot KS youths also move to Lawrence to sow their wild oats.
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