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Old 07-19-2015, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Kansas City, MO has some beautiful older brick and stone houses, but you have to look in the right neighbourhoods. Personally a fan of the "Tudor" homes in Waldo / Brookside, and also like the look of the stone shirtwaist houses like you find in West Plaza (but the houses and lot sizes are a little cramped for the price over there).

In Texas, I have found a lot of houses that are brick / cinderblock in new cheap small construction...but the "big builders" are also leaning towards the McMansion style with stucco, stone facade. The JoCo link you sent is no different from the new build stuff they are putting up in the Austin area (see: KB Home, David Weekly homes, etc).

-T.
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Old 07-19-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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Kansas City, MO has some beautiful older brick and stone houses, but you have to look in the right neighbourhoods. Personally a fan of the "Tudor" homes in Waldo / Brookside, and also like the look of the stone shirtwaist houses like you find in West Plaza (but the houses and lot sizes are a little cramped for the price over there).

In Texas, I have found a lot of houses that are brick / cinderblock in new cheap small construction...but the "big builders" are also leaning towards the McMansion style with stucco, stone facade. The JoCo link you sent is no different from the new build stuff they are putting up in the Austin area (see: KB Home, David Weekly homes, etc).

-T.
It is still about as out of place as a pine sided northwoods log cabin in KC.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I never thought about it, but KC seems to have stopped building with brick many decades ago. Probably just a local trend? Denver built thousands of ranch homes in the 50s and 60s, all brick. They do hold up better over time and probably look better since they don't require paint. Denver still uses brick a fair amount in new construction.

The thing about suburban KC homes that I can't stand is the horrible siding they put on the sides and back. It used to be the "batten board" (if that's how you spell it) that paint just peeled off of. Now it's some sort of cheap looking paneling. I've never noticed so much horrible siding used in another city.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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The rampant use of T1-11 siding in the more newly developed suburban areas stood out to me, as well, when I first moved here. I was raised by professional builders, and have a real knee-jerk response to that.

I get that bricks as a primary building material are not going to be seen in most budget new construction (although you will see it more in the more affluent suburban zip codes), unless it's a partial facade at most. But when you're looking at suburban sprawl that's designed to go up inexpensively and quickly, you're gonna get cheap construction. I don't think this is specific to KC suburbs, either. Rapid middle class suburban expansion, in general, is like this.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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It's so the wolf can huff n puff and blow down the ones that aren't made of brick, have you got something against wolves ? They have rights too you know !
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Old 07-20-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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The rampant use of T1-11 siding in the more newly developed suburban areas stood out to me, as well, when I first moved here. I was raised by professional builders, and have a real knee-jerk response to that.

I get that bricks as a primary building material are not going to be seen in most budget new construction (although you will see it more in the more affluent suburban zip codes), unless it's a partial facade at most. But when you're looking at suburban sprawl that's designed to go up inexpensively and quickly, you're gonna get cheap construction. I don't think this is specific to KC suburbs, either. Rapid middle class suburban expansion, in general, is like this.
Yeah, that's the horrible siding I see all over newer JoCo areas. I've even seen it warping off what looks like houses under 10 years old.

I've never seen new houses in the Denver 'burbs (or anywhere in California) built with T1-11 siding. The standard here is either Hardie Board, Brick/Stone or stucco. I have both brick and Hardie Board on my house and like it. After 10 years, I had it painted because the west side was a little faded, but never had any peeling anywhere on the house. I didn't notice any Hardie Board in KC last time I was there.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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I've never seen new houses in the Denver 'burbs (or anywhere in California) built with T1-11 siding.

There are hundred of thousands of houses in suburban Denver made with T1-11.
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Yeah, that's the horrible siding I see all over newer JoCo areas. I've even seen it warping off what looks like houses under 10 years old.
It warps practically instantly. So cheap.

Honestly, when you look at new development in suburban KC on either side (I used to see it all over Lee's Summit's newer subdivisions, too, and when we go hang out with friends up around Tiffany Springs), there are some really ****ty builders getting work.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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There are hundred of thousands of houses in suburban Denver made with T1-11.
Very strange that I haven't seen one. No, it's not something builders use here. Hardie board and stucco are the standard.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
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Nothing says cheap like T-11 siding. It is all over the area, the MO side suburbs as well as the KS side. No other city I visit has such an abundance of tacky looking new construction.

As far as I know, none of the national homebuilders (Pulte, D R Horton, Toll Brothers, and the like) have entered the KC market. If one of them came in, maybe the local builders would up their game. Brick probably isn't coming back -- not many skilled bricklayers in the labor force now -- but Hardie Board is a practical, good quality product.
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