06-27-2016, 02:28 PM
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I would put my kid in a Johnson County school over any school on the Missouri side. Most of this is just political crap and Johnson County schools are going to be just fine.
06-27-2016, 02:30 PM
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Political crap unfortunately affects state budgets, which absolutely affect legislation that pertains to public education.
06-27-2016, 02:49 PM
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Political crap unfortunately affects state budgets, which absolutely affect legislation that pertains to public education.
Well, the political crap has been going on since Joan Finney replaced Bob Dole as governor. They were discussing the same stuff they are discussing now. The fact that there are high population, extremely wealthy areas in Kansas and also low population, extremely poor areas in Kansas poses a challenge. But I don't think even the idiots in charge are going to let the Kansas public school districts, especially the ones that have been rated among the highest in the nation for decades, go down the tubes.
06-27-2016, 03:38 PM
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Well, the political crap has been going on since Joan Finney replaced Bob Dole as governor. They were discussing the same stuff they are discussing now. The fact that there are high population, extremely wealthy areas in Kansas and also low population, extremely poor areas in Kansas poses a challenge. But I don't think even the idiots in charge are going to let the Kansas public school districts, especially the ones that have been rated among the highest in the nation for decades, go down the tubes.
I think we can all agree that there's political crap. The question is not whether there's political crap, or even whose fault it is. The question is how bad will it hurt.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion (as always) about how the Johnson County schools will be fine. But honestly, what are you basing that on? Without providing any context, it just looks like naive optimism. I don't imagine the OP knows the first thing about Kansas politics, or about the two-state situation in the KC metro. Why not give him a little more to go on than simply "we'll be fine"?
06-27-2016, 04:05 PM
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I think we can all agree that there's political crap. The question is not whether there's political crap, or even whose fault it is. The question is how bad will it hurt.
As if Missouri schools are going to be better? KC school district lost their accreditation. Some of the other districts are okay, but they aren't better than Blue Valley. The OP is going to be working at Sprint. Blue Valley is a GREAT school district. I think it's ridiculous for some of you Missouri boosters to try to scare him into looking on the Missouri side when Blue Valley is just fine and will be for the foreseeable future, Missouri schools are no better and in fact many are nowhere near as good, and he will be working in the Blue Valley district. It makes no sense for you guys to get on here and post things to try to scare him away from Blue Valley.
OP, do yourself a favor and check out the Blue Valley School District. Talk to parents, administrators, etc. Blue Valley School District is just fine.
06-27-2016, 04:10 PM
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^ and KCI airport is "fine" too, even with a plethora of facts showing it's not fine.
I know a lot of teachers in the KC metro area in both KS and MO. Trust me. The situation in Kansas is not fine and right now, teachers prefer the MO side and it won't be long before things catch up to the public. Then again, I have been saying that for years about the public figuring out that KS corporate welfare is out of control and even today with the state broke, few have a clue. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
OP should do their own research. There is PLENTY of it out there on what Kansas has done to itself. The state really had little going for it other than public schools in Johnson County which drive people to the one county in the state that props the entire state up, so I seriously doubt they would mess that up too much. But Kansas does a lot of things that just don't make sense.
Having said that, I would think they will be fine in JoCo schools. Just look for some tax increases, probably local to JoCo only or something to try to keep JoCo isolated from the rest of the state. The problem with that is the rest of the state's districts will fight such a plan unless JoCo also helps them out as well.
Maybe Kansas should start STAR bonding to fund schools instead of financing retail centers that the population can't even support.
For the record, most School districts in the MO side suburbs are just as good as the JoCo suburbs. There are more actually because the MO side has more than one county people want to live in. If you want to bring up KCMO urban schools, then at least bring up KCK, Topeka, Wichita etc as well.
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06-27-2016, 07:28 PM
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^ and KCI airport is "fine" too, even with a plethora of facts showing it's not fine.
I know a lot of teachers in the KC metro area in both KS and MO. Trust me. The situation in Kansas is not fine and right now, teachers prefer the MO side and it won't be long before things catch up to the public. Then again, I have been saying that for years about the public figuring out that KS corporate welfare is out of control and even today with the state broke, few have a clue. So I wouldn't hold my breath.
OP should do their own research. There is PLENTY of it out there on what Kansas has done to itself. The state really had little going for it other than public schools in Johnson County which drive people to the one county in the state that props the entire state up, so I seriously doubt they would mess that up too much. But Kansas does a lot of things that just don't make sense.
Having said that, I would think they will be fine in JoCo schools. Just look for some tax increases, probably local to JoCo only or something to try to keep JoCo isolated from the rest of the state. The problem with that is the rest of the state's districts will fight such a plan unless JoCo also helps them out as well.
Maybe Kansas should start STAR bonding to fund schools instead of financing retail centers that the population can't even support.
For the record, most School districts in the MO side suburbs are just as good as the JoCo suburbs. There are more actually because the MO side has more than one county people want to live in. If you want to bring up KCMO urban schools, then at least bring up KCK, Topeka, Wichita etc as well.
No, I don't "trust" you, because you are very biased. I know teachers too, who work in Kansas, and wouldn't CONSIDER working for a school district on the Missouri side.
The OP isn't asking about living in KCK, Topeka or Wichita. He is asking about schools for his daughter with him working at Sprint. So why would I bring up KCK, Topeka or Wichita? Or any schools on the Missouri side? I wouldn't and I didn't.
The OP came here and said he was working at Sprint and asked about Kansas schools. You guys are ridiculous. When he gets here he can check it out for himself, but he'll be doing himself a disservice if he listens to advice like yours.
06-27-2016, 10:49 PM
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OP, the bottom line is this. You're going to work near or at Sprint. Live near work. Pick the Blue Valley or Shawnee Mission district. Both will keep you close to work with good schools. Missouri's good public schools would only increase your commute time. Both sides of state line are fine, but your situation better fits the aforementioned districts. Good luck!
06-27-2016, 11:03 PM
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Yeah I have to go with JoCo on this one. Live close to work, spend less time commuting and more time with your kids. That's just as important as good schools and you're in the fortunate situation where you can have both.
06-28-2016, 05:23 AM
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Most of this is just political crap and Johnson County schools are going to be just fine.
You should say that to the teachers in Kansas. Most of them are fleeing to the Missouri side because they don't have much faith in the numbskulls in Topeka.
My sister is the administrator of a school district on the Missouri said. Her district is being flooded with resumes from Kansas teachers who want to escape from Sam Brownback's nightmare. She jokes: "They ought to build a wall on the Missouri/Kansas border to keep the illegals out."
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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