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Old 07-14-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: West Midtown
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I'm settled in! Kansas City has truly surprised me with it's nightlife, social, entertainment, and shopping options. A big score. I live downtown so that has been great. I'm sad there isn't that many YOUNG black professionals here though. (I'm coming from Atlanta). Nevertheless; people here are great, and friendly. I have meet many wonderful people and my co workers are the best.

However; this begs the question? Why isn't there any shipping activity on the Missouri River. I mean every time I cross the river to whq! I never see any ships, barges, river boats, or anything! I would think this would be a major shipping activity hub by it being near the heartland.

I wanted to go to the river trail and sit and watch them go by but none

So what is the big deal, why no ships?
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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I don't know the reason, but here's a good place to start your research: Port of Kansas City - Port KC
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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I've idly wondered this myself, having grown up on the Illinois River, which is chock full of grain terminals, locks and dams, and barge traffic.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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This article may shed a bit of light. The lack of a lock and dam system through this stretch is part of it.

Barge traffic makes a resurgence on the Missouri River | Business News | US News
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Too narrow, too shallow, too fast, not enough industry that needs it that can't just use more efficient modes of trains and trucks instead. It's still used though, just not very much. Mostly small barges that supply a few small ports with bulk material.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:53 PM
 
Location: KCMO
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Too narrow, too shallow, too fast, not enough industry that needs it that can't just use more efficient modes of trains and trucks instead. It's still used though, just not very much. Mostly small barges that supply a few small ports with bulk material.
The Missouri is not too narrow or shallow for barge traffic. It will never have the volume in traffic that the Mississippi has, but the river, in its natural state, is navigable.
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Old 07-15-2016, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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It has a barge channel, as the article I linked points out.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Too narrow, too shallow, too fast, not enough industry that needs it that can't just use more efficient modes of trains and trucks instead. It's still used though, just not very much. Mostly small barges that supply a few small ports with bulk material.
What is your source for the Missouri being unsuitable for barge traffic?
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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The Missouri is not too narrow or shallow for barge traffic. It will never have the volume in traffic that the Mississippi has, but the river, in its natural state, is navigable.
You are partially right. The Missouri is neither too narrow nor to shallow for barge traffic in it's managed state. In fact it is managed specifically for barge traffic (and also, obviously, flood control).

It's natural state however, is so far divorced from what it (and our other major rivers) is today that it is nearly unrecognizable. In its natural state the Missouri was in fact shallow, broad, braided and comparatively slow moving, and would not have been navigable to modern barge traffic. Most of the large rivers in the US today would be better referred to as canals, the are so far divorced from what a river is in it's natural state.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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You are partially right. The Missouri is neither too narrow nor to shallow for barge traffic in it's managed state. In fact it is managed specifically for barge traffic (and also, obviously, flood control).

It's natural state however, is so far divorced from what it (and our other major rivers) is today that it is nearly unrecognizable. In its natural state the Missouri was in fact shallow, broad, braided and comparatively slow moving, and would not have been navigable to modern barge traffic. Most of the large rivers in the US today would be better referred to as canals, the are so far divorced from what a river is in it's natural state.
That's interesting as historical trivia, but isn't the original question about why there's hardly any barge traffic now? I dnn't think the natural state of the river is really relevant to that. Especially when you admit that every river with barge traffic has been modified for that purpose.
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