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Old 08-23-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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How can I put words in peoples mouths when they can't keep from getting their posts deleted? **cough**

BTW....this was a great thread...especially the 2nd poster claiming they don't bash JOCO either....do you feel that was truthful? I wonder if that was before or after they posted making fun of the KS kid killed by a pig. I'd link that too but it got deleted.

No more JoCo-bashing for me

You might ask yourself what caused me to be more contentious and even post in this forum when I didn't use to. Um....weekly garbage attack threads that have had to be deleted would probably be a big reason and boy the hypocrisy backlash from the posters here was astounding when given a small taste back.

Tell you what, do a search on threads started by your pal and those are the mild ones that aren't erased then come back and tell us if we're unduly riled up?

We agree that the poaching is bad, I'm willing to drop it with you at this point. Let's table the branson tax haven thing too, but ask yourself who made out in that move? I'd say developers and landowners in that area were the ones that wound up enriched by the tax incentives albeit indirectly. I do agree with your point that there is a line where incentives of any kind make no sense, it depends how egregious the benefit it so again I agree with you there.
Most of this was directed at kcmo, and it looks like he has it under control. So I'll just say that perhaps there was another beneficiary to the Branson incentives you won't recognize: THE RETIREES.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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That's not true at all. The numbers are much closer
Actually it is true. In fact, Missouri and K-State are about tied for 2nd most alumni in the metro and KU has more alumni in the metro than both of them combined.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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^^^^ Well, people have been fleeing to Kansas from Missouri since before the Civil War. Slaves ran from Missouri, a slave state, to Kansas, a free state. Now businesses flee Missouri for Kansas. Nothing new here.
Except...businesses don't flee Missouri for Kansas. Not with out state intervention, and even then, Missouri not only continues to be the economic center of the metro, it creates more new jobs than the Kansas side.

The "conservative"/"free market" government of Kansas is so desperate for businesses it recently tried to pay the Downtown Council of KCMO to move to Kansas, and got laughed out of the room.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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The "conservative"/"free market" government of Kansas is so desperate for businesses it recently tried to pay the Downtown Council of KCMO to move to Kansas, and got laughed out of the room.
This would be priceless if true, but you probably have to cite your source on such an outlandish anecdote.
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Old 08-23-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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I don't think black people flee to JO County today, let alone in 1940. I'm pretty sure JOCOUNTY kept blacks out which is why they migrated to raytown, Southland, grand view and now Lee's summit. I have a racially mixed family and moving to the burbs meant Lee's summit. No way would they move to jo county. They don't like it there. These are affluent people. Explain that.
I think you are kind of out of touch with Johnson County these days then. There are actually a lot of blacks in Johnson County these days. But the fact remains, blacks had to flee Missouri to escape slavery. I don't think I said Johnson County specifically. I said Kansas.

And I said BUSINESSES are fleeing Missouri to Kansas these days. I didn't say blacks, and I didn't say Johnson County, although there is a substantial increase in the number of blacks in Johnson County now as compared to a few years ago. And other parts of Kansas already had a large black population.

Maybe you should let them know that they don't like it here. Because they must not know that, as they are moving here.
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Old 08-23-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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Except...businesses don't flee Missouri for Kansas. Not with out state intervention, and even then, Missouri not only continues to be the economic center of the metro, it creates more new jobs than the Kansas side.

The "conservative"/"free market" government of Kansas is so desperate for businesses it recently tried to pay the Downtown Council of KCMO to move to Kansas, and got laughed out of the room.
Oh, but they do. One contingent that has moved to Kansas is doctors. Malpractice insurance is so expensive in Missouri that many many many doctors have moved across the state line. And that's just one example.

Menorah Medical Center moved out of Kansas City Missouri altogether several years ago. No one coerced them to move across the state line.
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Most of this was directed at kcmo, and it looks like he has it under control. So I'll just say that perhaps there was another beneficiary to the Branson incentives you won't recognize: THE RETIREES.
How am I not recognizing that they are getting a benefit? We noted pages ago they're getting tax breaks.

Res Ipso Facto and all that jazz.

P.S. Weren't you just complaining about putting words in peoples mouths?
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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The "conservative"/"free market" government of Kansas is so desperate for businesses it recently tried to pay the Downtown Council of KCMO to move to Kansas, and got laughed out of the room.
I'd heard that they were part of a mass e-mailing and I 100% agree that's a funny mistake.

I'd not heard they tried to pay them or had entered negotiations etc.

P.S. Too bad they didn't send a letter to the U of Missouri that would have been hilarious.

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Old 08-23-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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I'd heard that they were part of a mass e-mailing and I 100% agree that's a funny mistake.

I'd not heard they tried to pay them or had entered negotiations etc.

P.S. Too bad they didn't send a letter to the U of Missouri that would have been hilarious.
And you have defending the poaching and you have pretended that there is no proof of such poaching or that you don't know it happens.

You literally lie about what other people have said and then change the topic when confronted.

Whatever. It's hard to take you seriously, I mean you make fun of kids that get eaten by pigs. That says a lot.

Missouri never gives out incentives. There, you can quote that now since you won't find me saying that anywhere else since I have never remotely said that even though you keep saying I have. It will give you some ammunition to continue defending this Kansas nonsense. You need it.
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Old 08-23-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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And you have defending the poaching and you have pretended that there is no proof of such poaching or that you don't know it happens.

Yo literally lie about what other people have said and then change the topic when confronted.

Whatever. It's hard to take you seriously, I mean you make fun of kids that get eaten by pigs. That says a lot.

Missouri never gives out incentives. There quote that since you won't find me saying that anywhere else.
YOU are the one who was gloating over a kid getting eaten by pigs.


And it is hard to take YOU seriously.


Missouri never gives out incentives? Now there's a lie.
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