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Old 08-16-2016, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Bettendorf, IA
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I used to live in the KCMO area. I remember back in the late 90s on one of the FM sports talk shows there was a discussion on why KU got a lot more attention than MU in regards to sports. The host of the show said that at the time there were something like triple the KU grads in the area as opposed to MU grads. If that is even remotely true that probably explains why KU spends more money in the area promoting itself.




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I wonderd about all the high profile KU advertising at the stadium. They are pretty prominent on TV. I guess KU just does not have any such platforms that get a lot of exposure in Kansas to advertise. It is kind of a slap in the face to Jackson County tax payers though since Kansas is not really well liked in Jackson Cty. H&R Block or American Century would sure look nicer to us that don't care for KU purple in the ball park.
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Old 08-16-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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Never said MO didn't give out incentives.
Yes you did. You make all kinds of outrageous statements.
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Hays, Kansas
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I don't know where else to post this... With Macy's closing over 100 stores, we now know that Town Center Plaza in Leawood is safe! It was listed in the top 100 best performing stores as one of a few in this region alongside Park Meadows in Denver, and St. Louis Galleria. My theory is that if any in KC will close it will be Metro North and Prarie Village. They've already targeted several recently renovated or redeveloped stores for recent closure, so no, Metro North isn't safe. Being off of the top 100, Oak Park, Independence, and Lee's Summit technically aren't either. It also shows how far Oak Park Mall and Cherry Creek Mall (Denver) have fallen as their anchors used to be some of the top performing in the nation, but have since fallen to newer and shiner stores in even further flung suburbia.
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Old 08-17-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: KCMO (Plaza)
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I don't know where else to post this... With Macy's closing over 100 stores, we now know that Town Center Plaza in Leawood is safe! It was listed in the top 100 best performing stores as one of a few in this region alongside Park Meadows in Denver, and St. Louis Galleria. My theory is that if any in KC will close it will be Metro North and Prarie Village. They've already targeted several recently renovated or redeveloped stores for recent closure, so no, Metro North isn't safe. Being off of the top 100, Oak Park, Independence, and Lee's Summit technically aren't either. It also shows how far Oak Park Mall and Cherry Creek Mall (Denver) have fallen as their anchors used to be some of the top performing in the nation, but have since fallen to newer and shiner stores in even further flung suburbia.
At one point, I worked at the Independence Macy's store. Not a bad experience at all. With that in mind, the Independence store actually has the most square footage for retail sales and storage in the Metro area. Additionally, Macy's owns the Metro North store building and it's technically the only store that sits in KCMO city limits. Thus, with the closure of Metcalf South a few years ago, I don't see any changes locally, but I'm not so sure about the future.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Hays, Kansas
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At one point, I worked at the Independence Macy's store. Not a bad experience at all. With that in mind, the Independence store actually has the most square footage for retail sales and storage in the Metro area. Additionally, Macy's owns the Metro North store building and it's technically the only store that sits in KCMO city limits. Thus, with the closure of Metcalf South a few years ago, I don't see any changes locally, but I'm not so sure about the future.
The only reason I think Metro North might stay open is because most of the plans for metro north crossing include a new Macy's store that's about half the size of the current one and that's not owned by Macy's. Macy's is actually been selling off their stores just like Sears has been, it just hasn't been publicized to the same extent. Like I said in my last post, some of the recent closures have been profitable stores that are not only owned by Macy's, but were also recently renovated. Others were profitable stores that were released by Macy's, and it also been recently renovated, but Macy's didn't like the lease agreement so they just pulled out. I have a friend who works for Macy's and they plan on taking Columbus down to two stores and Cincinnati down to 2 with the possible closure of the downtown flagship. I'm not even going to assume that Oak Park Mall is safe. I know of three in Colorado, two in metro Denver and one in Colorado Springs, that are ripe for closure. I can also see the Illinois suburbs of St. Louis losing their two stores. Macy's current focus is making the stores a destination and the remaining 600 or so after these closures are supposed to be remodeled or relocated to new buildings. I think Herald Square is the only flagship they haven't downsized, and they e sure considered selling the building and/or downsizing it. When it comes to Sears, they actually have the Leavenworth Kmart and the Metcalf South Sears on the real estate market.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I don't know where else to post this... With Macy's closing over 100 stores, we now know that Town Center Plaza in Leawood is safe! It was listed in the top 100 best performing stores as one of a few in this region alongside Park Meadows in Denver, and St. Louis Galleria. My theory is that if any in KC will close it will be Metro North and Prarie Village. They've already targeted several recently renovated or redeveloped stores for recent closure, so no, Metro North isn't safe. Being off of the top 100, Oak Park, Independence, and Lee's Summit technically aren't either. It also shows how far Oak Park Mall and Cherry Creek Mall (Denver) have fallen as their anchors used to be some of the top performing in the nation, but have since fallen to newer and shiner stores in even further flung suburbia.
I wouldn't be surprised if the LS store closed just based off watching these large retail chains close stores. If the LS store is not performing very well (I have no idea if it is or not), then it could close because they would get the most return by being able to write off a much longer or more costly lease / construction loan since is a newer store. I think Macy's is pretty strong in the KC area. The one in Independence always seems busy.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:17 PM
 
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I don't know where else to post this... With Macy's closing over 100 stores, we now know that Town Center Plaza in Leawood is safe! It was listed in the top 100 best performing stores as one of a few in this region alongside Park Meadows in Denver, and St. Louis Galleria. My theory is that if any in KC will close it will be Metro North and Prarie Village. They've already targeted several recently renovated or redeveloped stores for recent closure, so no, Metro North isn't safe. Being off of the top 100, Oak Park, Independence, and Lee's Summit technically aren't either. It also shows how far Oak Park Mall and Cherry Creek Mall (Denver) have fallen as their anchors used to be some of the top performing in the nation, but have since fallen to newer and shiner stores in even further flung suburbia.
Sweet. I buy my Frango mints there for Christmas and frankly I refuse to shop in Missouri.

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Actually I don't care about the state line and do shop in MO, but I was feeling left out with all the utterly stupid state-line stuff said here.
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Old 08-18-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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This is nowhere NEAR the same thing. Branson was actually bringing about new population growth with these tax incentives, whereas luring businesses across the state line within the KC metro does not. Yeah, a few office drones are going to buy their lunches in Kansas instead of Missouri, but that's about it for total economic development.

One thing that hasn't been added to this discussion yet is the environmental impact. Anytime a large business moves within the same metro area, the majority of its employees will not relocate. Therefore the employees who chose their place of residence with the commute in mind will probably have to commute much further, if the move is of any distance at all. The only exception to this is if a company realizes that most of employees live in a different part of the metro, so they decide to move their office there. But there's no indication that this is what's been happening in KC.
Still waiting for a response to post #66.

Those incentives in Branson cost some other place tax revenue in order to lure their $$$ to relocate their residence to Branson.

It's EXACTLY like luring a company with tax incentives.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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Still waiting for a response to post #66.

Those incentives in Branson cost some other place tax revenue in order to lure their $$$ to relocate their residence to Branson.

It's EXACTLY like luring a company with tax incentives.
You actually quoted me already pointing out to you why it's completely different. Either read it, or move on.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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You actually quoted me already pointing out to you why it's completely different. Either read it, or move on.
My response points out the gaping hole in your argument. Lol....it's ok because it's for population growth? What a steamer that one is.

Seems funny that we can all agree that poaching and massive incentives are bad.....when KS does it. When the spotlight shines on another state then here come the excuses.

It's just really hypocritical to see the blind eye being turned to the tax cuts and incentives when it's not comfortable.

P.S. I wonder if it was you that left me the anonymous rep recently with the message or one of the other two posters that like to make fun of kids and their families when they die in KS?
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