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Old 01-27-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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I don't like trump. At all. But I really like that he wants to build up our country's infrastructure, something most conservatives don't want to do. The USA's infrastructure is embarrassing now compared to almost every other country, including many developing countries.

Spending money to rebuild our aging infrastructure is long overdue.

Although I don't really get KCI being on the list. It's not really a fed funded project. However, if the feds want to pay for much of it, KC should be very excited. KC will likely be the first city in the nation to actually attempt to fight off the feds and any federal money if they do actually plan to help rebuild KCI.

Let me correct that last sentence. KC's "residents" will fight the project. The city government is in favor of a new terminal.
All that President Trump has to say to Kansas City is "Build that new terminal" and our President will make Kansas City Great Again!
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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This article out of St Louis makes it look like Kansas City really has missed the Southwest boat because of KCI's terminals. With Southwest expansion in mind, Lambert renovations underway - KMOV.com
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Old 01-27-2017, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Peoria, AZ
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This article out of St Louis makes it look like Kansas City really has missed the Southwest boat because of KCI's terminals. With Southwest expansion in mind, Lambert renovations underway - KMOV.com
St. Louis has the advantage of having a terminal that was a large airline hub in the late 1980s - early 2000s. That terminal can be much more easily modified to modern standards than the ones at KCI.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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St. Louis has the advantage of having a terminal that was a large airline hub in the late 1980s - early 2000s. That terminal can be much more easily modified to modern standards than the ones at KCI.

Point is that had KC dealt with KCI's terminal situation ten years ago, it's likely that many of the flights that SW has added to StL and DIA would be in KC today instead. SW has stated many times they wanted to make KC a major focus city. This was before they were even in Denver and had very little presence in StL.

Now look, KC is far from being a focus city and StL is well on the way. MCI has become another OKC or Omaha to Southwest.

DIA:180
STL:100
MCI:69
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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Point is that had KC dealt with KCI's terminal situation ten years ago, it's likely that many of the flights that SW has added to StL and DIA would be in KC today instead. SW has stated many times they wanted to make KC a major focus city. This was before they were even in Denver and had very little presence in StL.

Now look, KC is far from being a focus city and StL is well on the way. MCI has become another OKC or Omaha to Southwest.

DIA:180
STL:100
MCI:69
Then why didn't you show OKC and Omaha's numbers there?
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Then why didn't you show OKC and Omaha's numbers there?
Because they didn't added dozens of flights, many at the expense of MCI. I also know that they are O/D cities and not focus cities for Southwest which is what KCI is even though SW would have liked to make it a focus city or even just add a lot more flights then they have been able to add.

KCI would probably have over 100 Southwest flights a day (focus city or not) if KCI's terminal was not so hated across the national flying public. I know, it's a difficult concept to understand.
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Peoria, AZ
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Because they didn't added dozens of flights, many at the expense of MCI. I also know that they are O/D cities and not focus cities for Southwest which is what KCI is even though SW would have liked to make it a focus city or even just add a lot more flights then they have been able to add.

KCI would probably have over 100 Southwest flights a day (focus city or not) if KCI's terminal was not so hated across the national flying public. I know, it's a difficult concept to understand.
I agree. However, that ship has sailed. Southwest seems very committed to their focus cities in DEN and STL and is continually growing both.
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Old 01-31-2017, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I agree. However, that ship has sailed. Southwest seems very committed to their focus cities in DEN and STL and is continually growing both.
I know. Kinda of sad really, especially since KCI is going to have to replace the terminal eventually no matter what and by the time they do, they will spend way more and get way less out of the deal. Not to mention years of potential loss of more flights and related economic activity.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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According to this, KCI has an average TSA wait of nearly 30 minutes. This almost seems like it might be an error though. I have seen waits of 30-45 minutes at KCI during weekday morning rush, but a 30 minute average seems high for KCI unless things really have gotten bad there.

https://c0cre904.caspio.com/dp.asp?a...ToDetails=True

Meanwhile here are some other airports that proves that most airports don't have much of a wait at all.

Denver 9 minutes
Baltimore 11 minutes
Reagan 3 minutes
Dulles 33 minutes
Phoenix 9 minutes
DFW 13 minutes
Dallas Love 9 minutes
Lousville 6 minutes
St Louis 4 minutes
Atlanta 7 minutes
Nashville 10 minutes

Bottom line is the waits at TSA at any airport is grossly exaggerated by KCI supporters and this has been my experience as well.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:30 AM
 
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According to this, KCI has an average TSA wait of nearly 30 minutes. This almost seems like it might be an error though. I have seen waits of 30-45 minutes at KCI during weekday morning rush, but a 30 minute average seems high for KCI unless things really have gotten bad there.

https://c0cre904.caspio.com/dp.asp?a...ToDetails=True

Meanwhile here are some other airports that proves that most airports don't have much of a wait at all.

Denver 9 minutes
Baltimore 11 minutes
Reagan 3 minutes
Dulles 33 minutes
Phoenix 9 minutes
DFW 13 minutes
Dallas Love 9 minutes
Lousville 6 minutes
St Louis 4 minutes
Atlanta 7 minutes
Nashville 10 minutes

Bottom line is the waits at TSA at any airport is grossly exaggerated by KCI supporters and this has been my experience as well.
There's a confirmation bias at work. One nightmare scenario (out of dozens of visits) in a large airport is enough to sour any medium-market midwesterner. "Save KC!" They say. "God forbid we should become like Dallas! One time I had to wait in line for... an hour."
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