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Old 02-23-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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Nice place, I want to move there. In the picture. Now.

Shorpy Historic Picture Archive :: K.C.: 1908 high-resolution photo
Nostalgia, yes, I feel it too if I "get" you correctly. A longing to leave the busy rush of today for a quieter simpler time. Sometimes I think I tend to romanticize and forget about the things that were "issues" back then -- but mostly when i compare it to today, I'd like to step back to a time when people had time to actually have conversations beyond texting a few words here or there.
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Old 02-23-2017, 10:32 PM
 
Location: KCMO (Plaza)
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This thread has some awesome pictures, thanks for sharing them. I have vague memories of Kansas City I guess late 1950's or so - I remember going downtown (we took the train from a small town about 45 miles away) once a year to go shopping and the Forum Cafeteria was a huge deal for me but that was before "now" when so many people eat out about every day. I was a weird kid because, I think I was probably 6 or 7 and I always got brussel sprouts at the Forum.

Anyway thanks for sharing these amazing pictures. I've seen a few pictures of Kansas City at Cristmastime with the old street decorations which were tame by today's standards but they stir memories, I can't describe how things were decorated but when I see pictures it awakens memories. I vague recall some sort of "crown" that was the centerpiece in street intersections. There is something to be said for older and simpler, nowadays its a huge undertaking with all kind of technical sparkles and music and stuff but there's still something special about simple old Christmas before it became wild jamming into stores with everybody competing for the same stuff. I guess I'm becoming an anachrism, starting to feel like I used to imagine my father felt only now I'm the one who's seen amazing (not always for the better) changes in society.
Unfortunately I can't link the photo directly, but the following link contains a detailed view of Walnut and 11th during Christmas time as found on the first page. Thanks for the story.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mslaff...767147/sizes/l

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Old 02-26-2017, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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[quote=PA650;47302666]Unfortunately I can't link the photo directly, but the following link contains a detailed view of Walnut and 11th during Christmas time as found on the first page. Thanks for the story.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mslaff...767147/sizes/l

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FANTASTIC, thanks so much - I can't wait to check out these new photos ! I'm sure I'll have some comments (hopefully relevant) in a while.

Thanks Again !


Oh these were great I especially liked the ones around 1890 or so - my father was born in 1895 so it gives me an idea of how things were then although he wasn't in the city much until he came back from WWI - his service on a troop transport ship in the Navy going back and forth between the U.S. and France. Then he became a street car conductor (maybe I said that earlier) so the street cars are interesting - I also have a picture of my father in Los Angeles in front of "his" streetcar - he looks so young and handsome (and a bit cocky too I think) - the orpheum theater was cool to see - some of the streets didn't looked paved yet maybe its just how they were finished - surely they can't have the ability to build such fantastic buildings and not pave the streets. Also it was interesting to see Troost Street before its downturn, most interesting ! The EBT Building really stands out ! I missed the photo I think you referred to maybe I'll see it my second time thru in a day or too (you really can't appreciate them one time thru). My father was 54 when I was born - people think I meant WW II but no it was WW I. These are great photos I wish I could look at them with my father to see what his comments might be. I found him in a few records living on Forest St and it showed "conductor" as occupation.

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Old 02-27-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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I like that one of the Westgate Hotel. Does anyone know if it's still there?
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: NW NJ & SE Oahu
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"Photoplays"?

Oh....movies.

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Old 02-27-2017, 11:16 PM
 
Location: KCMO (Plaza)
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Thanks Again !


Oh these were great I especially liked the ones around 1890 or so - my father was born in 1895 so it gives me an idea of how things were then although he wasn't in the city much until he came back from WWI - his service on a troop transport ship in the Navy going back and forth between the U.S. and France. Then he became a street car conductor (maybe I said that earlier) so the street cars are interesting - I also have a picture of my father in Los Angeles in front of "his" streetcar - he looks so young and handsome (and a bit cocky too I think) - the orpheum theater was cool to see - some of the streets didn't looked paved yet maybe its just how they were finished - surely they can't have the ability to build such fantastic buildings and not pave the streets. Also it was interesting to see Troost Street before its downturn, most interesting ! The EBT Building really stands out ! I missed the photo I think you referred to maybe I'll see it my second time thru in a day or too (you really can't appreciate them one time thru). My father was 54 when I was born - people think I meant WW II but no it was WW I. These are great photos I wish I could look at them with my father to see what his comments might be. I found him in a few records living on Forest St and it showed "conductor" as occupation.
Thanks for your feedback. Quite interesting! My great great grandfather use to be an engineer on the 'L' in Chicago.

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I like that one of the Westgate Hotel. Does anyone know if it's still there?
It's still there, in memory. It was by where the Muse of Missouri sits today. Unfortunately everyone in my profession back then thought erasing the old downtown and replacing it with modernist boxes was a great thing to do.



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Old 02-28-2017, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Alamogordo, NM
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It's still there, in memory. It was by where the Muse of Missouri sits today. Unfortunately everyone in my profession back then thought erasing the old downtown and replacing it with modernist boxes was a great thing to do.


Thanks for that, PA650. It's too bad that buildings of interest like the Westgate Hotel have to disappear the way they do.
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Old 02-28-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: KCMO (Plaza)
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It's still there, in memory. It was by where the Muse of Missouri sits today. Unfortunately everyone in my profession back then thought erasing the old downtown and replacing it with modernist boxes was a great thing to do.


Thanks for that, PA650. It's too bad that buildings of interest like the Westgate Hotel have to disappear the way they do.
You're welcome! I can't think of any good reason that 'urban renewal' occurred in that part of town beyond 1950 planning practices. The Junction was an unique aspect of downtown that unfortunately doesn't exist anymore. Yet, I just hope we can have some nice infill in that area and removing the north freeway loop will certainly aid in that development.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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I don't understand the desire to remove the north freeway loop. There is no shortage of land surface lots downtown already and it would be terribly expensive.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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I don't understand the desire to remove the north freeway loop. There is no shortage of land surface lots downtown already and it would be terribly expensive.
Would it be terribly expensive? If that stretch is not serving its purpose (and it's not by a long shot) then wouldn't it be fiscally advantageous to replace it with private lots that generate tax revenue, instead of continually maintaining the roadway for decades on end?

And you're wrong on another point. There IS starting to be a shortage of land surface lots downtown, at least in the Loop and River Market areas.
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