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Old 02-28-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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I have seen a report about the Buck O'Neil bridge is needing quite a bit of work or totally replaced. I am for replacing it with a new bridge. I think we should SAVE the old bridge and make it a pedestrian parkway as a connection to the airport area. Economic opportunities are abundant. Maybe even run the Trolley across it and the airport will increase it's traffic. Tearing these bridges up is a waste of infrastructure. They did some thing like this in New York city with the old elevated rail line.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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I have seen a report about the Buck O'Neil bridge is needing quite a bit of work or totally replaced. I am for replacing it with a new bridge. I think we should SAVE the old bridge and make it a pedestrian parkway as a connection to the airport area. Economic opportunities are abundant. Maybe even run the Trolley across it and the airport will increase it's traffic. Tearing these bridges up is a waste of infrastructure. They did some thing like this in New York city with the old elevated rail line.
I would be all for this in theory. But do you have any examples of a dilapidated bridge being relocated? Seems like it would be a triple expense: (1) move the bridge, (2) build a new bridge in its place, (3) reinstall the bridge elsewhere, with the needed repairs.

The High Line in NY is a totally different deal. I don't think it was structurally deficient, it was just a decommissioned a rail line. So it was a straightforward re-purposing, not a massive repair or relocation effort.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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No moving of the brige at all. The new bridge is just offset to one side. Sure to be a design problem but i have seen many done that way.

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Old 03-02-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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After looking at Google Earth i see plenty of room on the west side of the bridge to add the new bridge.
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Old 03-02-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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I would be all for this in theory. But do you have any examples of a dilapidated bridge being relocated? Seems like it would be a triple expense: (1) move the bridge, (2) build a new bridge in its place, (3) reinstall the bridge elsewhere, with the needed repairs.

The High Line in NY is a totally different deal. I don't think it was structurally deficient, it was just a decommissioned a rail line. So it was a straightforward re-purposing, not a massive repair or relocation effort.
The old London Bridge was dismantled stone by stone and moved to Lake Havasu City, Ariz.

Granted, moving a steel bowstring-arch bridge wouldn't be as simple, but if they can jack up the Bayonne Bridge in New Jersey as is being done now to let larger ships pass under it, then there should be a way to shift an existing bridge over.

Then again, the current span replaced the Hannibal's auto deck, and it too remains in place, as does the A-S-B next to the Heart of America. No reason this one couldn't stick around where it is too while a new span is built to its west.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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The old London Bridge was dismantled stone by stone and moved to Lake Havasu City, Ariz.

Granted, moving a steel bowstring-arch bridge wouldn't be as simple, but if they can jack up the Bayonne Bridge in New Jersey as is being done now to let larger ships pass under it, then there should be a way to shift an existing bridge over.

Then again, the current span replaced the Hannibal's auto deck, and it too remains in place, as does the A-S-B next to the Heart of America. No reason this one couldn't stick around where it is too while a new span is built to its west.
It always comes down to cost. It would be great to save the Broadway Bridge though and use it as a transit/pedestrian bridge if there was any way to make the numbers work.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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It always comes down to cost. It would be great to save the Broadway Bridge though and use it as a transit/pedestrian bridge if there was any way to make the numbers work.
Someone needs to start crunching some numbers. This would be a fantastic extension of downtown KC to the north side of the river. Better than just coming to an abrupt stop a the river banks. Shopping areas could be in the unused portion of the airport. Ideas please.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Someone needs to start crunching some numbers. This would be a fantastic extension of downtown KC to the north side of the river. Better than just coming to an abrupt stop a the river banks. Shopping areas could be in the unused portion of the airport. Ideas please.
Harlem Harlem Harlem.

The redevelopment potential there is huge. That little underused area of the KCMO city limits across the river from the River Market and south of NKC could accommodate an entire brand new neighborhood of apartments complimenting the River Market and Berkley Park and finally taking advantage of both sides of KC's riverfront.

In order for that area to redevelop, there needs to be a pedestrian/transit connection and that would require either a new bridge or a re-purposing of the Broadway Bridge if a new bridge is built to replace it for Highway 169. The ASB is also an option for a pedestrian/transit bridge, but doubt it could be safely used since it's still an active and busy rail bridge.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Harlem Harlem Harlem.

The redevelopment potential there is huge. That little underused area of the KCMO city limits across the river from the River Market and south of NKC could accommodate an entire brand new neighborhood of apartments complimenting the River Market and Berkley Park and finally taking advantage of both sides of KC's riverfront.

In order for that area to redevelop, there needs to be a pedestrian/transit connection and that would require either a new bridge or a re-purposing of the Broadway Bridge if a new bridge is built to replace it for Highway 169. The ASB is also an option for a pedestrian/transit bridge, but doubt it could be safely used since it's still an active and busy rail bridge.
The ASB also touches down on the Missouri's north bank about a half mile west of Harlem, while the Buck O'Neil lands close to its heart.
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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The possibilities are endless. As said more than just the good generated by the bridge but to the whole area across the river.
I am not capable to organise any group and wish that some group would form and study the possibilities and be ready to get right after it.
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