How "southern" is Kansas City? (St. Louis, Springfield: transplants, construction)

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

The eastern half of the US is all areas along and east of the Mississippi River, and includes the majority of the population of the Midwest as well.
They do have plenty of good laughs about "those people" that elected dumb hayseeds like Brownback, though...

I guess I’d laugh at the kind of hayseed who doesn’t know what “half” means.

[MarketStEl]

Originally Posted by kcmo

Pretty much. Even the east coast has plenty of smaller cities, towns and rural areas just outside the Bos-Wash corridor.

I would agree that people in places like DC don't think about KC as a cowtown. They don't really put much thought into places like KC (StL, Indy etc) at all. But they do think much of the midwest (including the major cities) are a bunch of far right conservatives.

That last isn't really accurate. The larger cities of the Midwest are center-left to liberal politically, including Des Moines, Omaha and Wichita.

Wichita's votes get canceled out by the rest of Sedgwick County, and the votes of the suburbanites in St. Louis and Kansas City turn their metros pale pink.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

That last isn't really accurate. The larger cities of the Midwest are center-left to liberal politically, including Des Moines, Omaha and Wichita.

Wichita's votes get canceled out by the rest of Sedgwick County, and the votes of the suburbanites in St. Louis and Kansas City turn their metros pale pink.

I didn't say it was true, I said that's what people out here think. Think don't seem to understand that most cities in the midwest are generally liberal despite being in red states.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by kcmo

I didn't say it was true, I said that's what people out here think. Think don't seem to understand that most cities in the midwest are generally liberal despite being in red states.

It doesn't matter where you go. Big cities like Memphis, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Chicago etc. are all very liberal.

Cities like Wichita and Des Moines might not be quite as liberal because they're not as big and immediately around them they're very rural unlike the cities I listed above that are in very densely populated areas. Georgia is pretty rural BUT the Atlanta metro area counties are one of the heaviest liberal democrap voting areas of the country. It's why last election Trump only won Georgia by about 5 points.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

It doesn't matter where you go. Big cities like Memphis, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Chicago etc. are all very liberal.

Cities like Wichita and Des Moines might not be quite as liberal because they're not as big and immediately around them they're very rural unlike the cities I listed above that are in very densely populated areas. Georgia is pretty rural BUT the Atlanta metro area counties are one of the heaviest liberal democrap voting areas of the country. It's why last election Trump only won Georgia by about 5 points.

Why does every single conservative use name calling or bizarre name changing whenever they talk or post online? You couldn't type that without saying "democrap"? I realize this is how Trump does things, but I just find it to be extremely immature. I will stop reading immediately the first time I hit a word like lib tard or what not and just move on. It can't possibly be an effective way of debating anything in any sort of mature manner.

[James Bond 007]

I noticed the same thing. Lots of cons seem to be infantile like their Dear Leader and like to call their opponents by every insulting name you can think of. In fact, recently I decided to play a little tit for tat by calling conservatives "cons" instead of just "conservatives."

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by SPonteKC

I guess I’d laugh at the kind of hayseed who doesn’t know what “half” means.

The point is that Brownback is an ignorant hayseed that was re-elected. The fact can’t be ignored, and Kobach won’t go away either.

[NewfieMama]

I was born and raised in Kansas City and it never felt southern to me growing up. I've been on the East Coast for 20 years and when I go back to visit family it feels very Southern to me. The food is very southern (which I love), I notice a southern drawl in the speech (which I never noticed when living there), the pace is much slower, the people are friendlier (still wave when you pass by on a country road--which is probably just as much Midwestern as Southern). I definitely see it differently now vs. when I lived there.

[Kerguelen]

I've only visited it a couple times, but it doesn't feel southern to me at all.

[TabulaRasa]

Originally Posted by MarketStEl

I think it's what you point out in that last paragrpah that I'm referring to when I call St. Louis "the last great city of the East" and Kansas City "the first great city of the West."

Even though both agriculture and industry can be found throughout the entire Midwest, its eastern half (Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan,Wisconsin) is more "industrial" in character and its western half (Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, both Dakotas) more "agricultural."

BTW, when it comes to your point about Southern influence, this guy's got your back:

Which of the 11 American nations do you live in? | The Washington Post

Portland (Me.) Press Herald reporter Colin Woodward's book "American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America"

My husband is OBSESSED with this book.