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Old 01-16-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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LOL. 160,000 KCP&L customers without power for days can put a damper on going out plans.
KCP&L is a joke of a utility, they need more competition. They have made so many mistakes that have cost ratepayers a huge amount of money.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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KCP&L is a joke of a utility, they need more competition. They have made so many mistakes that have cost ratepayers a huge amount of money.


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Old 01-16-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Well, for starters, they constructed a new coal power plant in Platte County that opened in 2011 that was using obsolete pulverized technology. Of course the utility increased the KWh rate for all commercial and residential consumers for that very bad business decision. They could have easily gone with natural gas, energy efficiency initiatives, and renewable sources, but made a very costly choice for everyone (now that all other sources are cheaper), including metro area health and environment. Most utilities are much better positioned long-term than KCP&L as most wind power in Kansas is also exported to other states including Colorado, not to the KC metro area.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Kansas City MO
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There really is no excuse for a relatively moderate snow that is not accompanied by wind or extreme temperatures to put 160,000 customers out of power for multiple days. Sure it was 8-10 inches, but in these days of more variable weather, we will have a storm like this at least every 3-5 winters. What happens if we get a major blizzard with 12+in of snow with 40 mph winds? I am afraid people will lose their lives in their own homes due to lack of electricity in that more severe case.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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It's because it was an extremely heavy, sticky snow combined with 8-9 inches which is a rare combination. That is in no way relatively moderate.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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It's because it was an extremely heavy, sticky snow combined with 8-9 inches which is a rare combination. That is in no way relatively moderate.
Dry snow is always preferred, although that is more common in northern areas.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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I'll make a note. Thank you.
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Old 01-22-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Well, for starters, they constructed a new coal power plant in Platte County that opened in 2011 that was using obsolete pulverized technology. Of course the utility increased the KWh rate for all commercial and residential consumers for that very bad business decision. They could have easily gone with natural gas, energy efficiency initiatives, and renewable sources, but made a very costly choice for everyone (now that all other sources are cheaper), including metro area health and environment. Most utilities are much better positioned long-term than KCP&L as most wind power in Kansas is also exported to other states including Colorado, not to the KC metro area.
So you are also an expert on utilities and energy generation in addition to geography, mapping, weather, climate, cars and knowing that everyone is just to stupid to not appreciate living in the coldest climates in the USA. Amazing.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:14 AM
 
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So you are also an expert on utilities and energy generation in addition to geography, mapping, weather, climate, cars and knowing that everyone is just to stupid to not appreciate living in the coldest climates in the USA. Amazing.
Yea, I can't imagine living in MN.

I prefer the climate of southern Missouri. Sure it gets humid in the summer but also the winter is still pretty mild temperature wise.

Down here it's hot from May to the end of Oct. I can tolerate the winter temps of somewhere like Branson for example.
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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So you are also an expert on utilities and energy generation in addition to geography, mapping, weather, climate, cars and knowing that everyone is just to stupid to not appreciate living in the coldest climates in the USA. Amazing.
No, I never claimed I was an expert on utilities, I just know a bit more than many people because I've looked into their business models and what their long-term strategies are. Missouri is finally making "some" strides in the utility sector, but the mistakes in the past ten years have certainly cost ratepayers. Those other items you mentioned I never claimed to be an "expert" on, although I have an extensive professional and educational background in the GIS and meteorology fields. Cold, yes, always better than heat and humidity.
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