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Old 01-29-2009, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Default Kansas City Power & Light District, an entertainment district built from the ground up

This is the Power and Light District in KCMO.

This entire area was surface parking lots and vacant buildings only a few years ago and now it is a thriving entertainment district.

It's only about halfway done. So far it is mostly dining and night clubs, but retail, a hotel, condo towers and a movie theater are on the way. A theater was restored and has become a major venue for concerts and other acts. The movie theater will restore an another art deco theater that has been closed for decades. The district is right between the convention center and the Sprint Arena.




























































































































































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Old 01-29-2009, 07:20 AM
 
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awesome pictures. i can't wait until the P&L District is complete.... i know some people complain about the dress code, but as a guy who normally wears hoodies and baggy jeans, I personally think its nice to go to a nice part of KC and not everyone looks like scrubs... besides its not like you can't still wear jeans and a tshirt.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Good pictures.

I worked on Grand while it was all being built so it was fun passing it everyday watching the progress. I saw it from the day the demolition fence was put up around the old buildings to right before the Sprint Center opened (I went to work in Shawnee Mission).
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: St Louis
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Very nice and I am sure is quite the addition to downtown. The few items I have against this project (listed below) are the same concerns I have with Ballpark Village in STL. Hopefully they can get more use out of the Sprint area. The most attractive item is the college basketball experience. Gives a reason for families to come downtown.

1. Seems like a lot of chain bars, shops, and restaurants. Makes for a unnatural area without much character.
2. Too much plaza/community areas that ar not located on the street grid.

Hopefully the Village in STL stays away from that type of development however that appears as if that is not going to be the case.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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1. Seems like a lot of chain bars, shops, and restaurants. Makes for a unnatural area without much character..
Most, if not all, the stuff in there are chains but do not have other locations in KC. Therefor, I really dont consider them much of a chain. They are unique to that area in our city.

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2. Too much plaza/community areas that ar not located on the street grid..
The point is to not be on the street grid. This allows for several things: 1. a concert, courtyard area 2. open container 3. no traffic to worry about 4. easier access to all establishments.
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Old 01-29-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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kcmo takes good pictures. It is a nice addition. My only concern is all those resturants that have opened in the same time period has flooded the market. It can only handle so much.
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Old 01-29-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Very nice and I am sure is quite the addition to downtown. The few items I have against this project (listed below) are the same concerns I have with Ballpark Village in STL. Hopefully they can get more use out of the Sprint area. The most attractive item is the college basketball experience. Gives a reason for families to come downtown.

1. Seems like a lot of chain bars, shops, and restaurants. Makes for a unnatural area without much character.
2. Too much plaza/community areas that ar not located on the street grid.

Hopefully the Village in STL stays away from that type of development however that appears as if that is not going to be the case.
I agree with you, i'd like to see more independent places, not chains... that said, being a chain doesn't mean it can't be a fun place to go or eat or anything else, it's all about the people and the atmosphere....
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I agree with you, i'd like to see more independent places, not chains... that said, being a chain doesn't mean it can't be a fun place to go or eat or anything else, it's all about the people and the atmosphere....

It's going to be hard to get a small business owner to open a restaurant/bar in this economy. Those type of establishments are already the most failed buiness in the country, you will be hard pressed to find someone opening one up until the economy recovers.

I think we will probably see some though once things start to improve.
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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Brickmama I kind of agree with you, but I think you're coming at this from the wrong perspective.

P&L, just like Ballpark Village, is not for urbanites -- it's built for suburbanites. It lacks the charm of a real city neighborhood and has that super-clean feel about it.

But honestly? I'm OK with that. Will I hang out in either place? Probably not, unless I'm with others who wish to, but bringing the suburbanites back to the city, if only just for a night, will help the city in two major ways:

1. Money, money money. An increased tax base is something every city should strive for.

2. It helps to, if only a little bit, remove some of the stigma attached to city life that many suburbanites have long held on to.

At the end of the day you don't see true New Yorkers hanging out in Times Square either, but it serves its purpose and help New York.
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Brickmama I kind of agree with you, but I think you're coming at this from the wrong perspective.

P&L, just like Ballpark Village, is not for urbanites -- it's built for suburbanites. It lacks the charm of a real city neighborhood and has that super-clean feel about it.

But honestly? I'm OK with that. Will I hang out in either place? Probably not, unless I'm with others who wish to, but bringing the suburbanites back to the city, if only just for a night, will help the city in two major ways:

1. Money, money money. An increased tax base is something every city should strive for.

2. It helps to, if only a little bit, remove some of the stigma attached to city life that many suburbanites have long held on to.

At the end of the day you don't see true New Yorkers hanging out in Times Square either, but it serves its purpose and help New York.
Exactly, here is a post from another forum where I posted these and got a similar responce from the more urban minded forum members..


Well, the district is what it is. Itís a ďcannedĒ entertainment district that primarily caters to suburbanites and tourists, but also does well during lunch hour and the LIVE block pretty much goes nuts on weekends.

The chain places are there sure, but there are many local dining places as well. The Peachtree, The Bristol etc.

If you want bbq in KC, you donít go to Famous Daveís and that place is already struggling and the latest is that it will be replaced by a pizza place. No local BBQ favorite wanted to close an existing location to move to the P&L. There are tons of authentic BBQ places around downtown and for five bucks, any cab driver should know where to go.

This place really added a convenience and safety factor to people attending events downtown. The Sprint Center, Midland, AMC theaters, Music Hall, Muni Auditorium, Bartle Hall and soon to the 425 million dollar Performing Arts Center should keep the district full of people that are just not interested hunting down the more local places in the urban areas surrounding downtown.

The P&L District has added something to the urban core that was desperately needed. Itís become a gathering spot for major events, the new yearís bash was like something Iíve never seen in the Midwest. There are few places with such a controlled night club scene. Downtown KCMO on Friday and Saturday nights looks like something I could never have imagined a few years ago. Itís a thriving city with people and taxis everywhere.

So, itís fake and all, but Itís a little bit of everything. Downtown now has one of the nicest urban grocery stores in the country, at least for a city this size. Theaters, live concerts in the LIVE block, at the Midland or in the surroundings venues and arenas.

KCMO still has the River Market, the Crossroads, Midtown and the Plaza and now we have this. I think the cityís urban core really has a lot going for it now and offers any sort of urban experience one could imagine and it keeps getting better.

We still have these nearby developments coming as well:

http://photos.imageevent.com/kcphotos/renderings/pac_2005.jpg (broken link)

http://photos.imageevent.com/kcphotos/renderings/kcpac05.jpg (broken link)

http://photos.imageevent.com/kcphotos/renderings/kcpac06.jpg (broken link)

Plus, another theater is opening back up:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/mirak/250px-MainstreetTheaterPromo.jpg (broken link)

All of this filled a giant hole on the south side of Downtown that was nothing but small vacant or underused buildings and surface parking lots.
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