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Originally Posted by Samantha S
Extolling the virtues of JoCo <> putting down MO suburbs.
No kidding. Read that a few times yourself please.
Independence and Raytown are talked down by Liberty and Lee's Summit residents all the time too. It's not the greatest area of the metro.
I respectfully and completely disagree with this.
They will stop about the same time they stop picking one KS school district whose superintendent is losing sleep over bungling his own budget and doing a story about how KS schools are making drastic cuts ... 
Because pit bulls aren't allowed there?
They all cater, they should all be taken with a grain of salt and a healthy dose of perspective.
Not living there doesn't mean we don't know about it and enjoy it.
People from JoCo really aren't this stupid, kcmo. We're well aware of the nicer and not so nice parts of the city. Stop assuming we are lumping it all into one crime-infested hole. (Which I've never heard as a reference by the way.)
Any transit system has to start with airport to downtown. It's a tough sell to get KS residents to pay for transit between two MO destinations. JoCo residents don't see a lot of value for themselves in transit. That's why we don't want to pay for it.
They want something for their money? They want a say in how it's spent??? How rude! 
It honestly seems to me that KCMO wants its cake and to eat it too. You want JoCo to send money with no strings for culture, transit, etc. After all, we're one big metro.
But a company move to JoCo? Hey! That's ours! Don't take our businesses away!
Nothing is stopping KCMO from offering incentives for economic developement. If Applebees is lured away, more power to you! But make up your minds! Are we one big metro or not???
Agreed. Like stop jumping on every possible chance to tell people to avoid JoCo.
Practice what ya preach, brother!
Of course it will! What would be the fun otherwise?!  |
Pretty much sums it up. Your only come back is to justify most of what I think is wrong with the state line issues and you basically say things are just fine they way they are.
There is no problem.
JoCo people don’t look down on the MO side because you don’t see it, even though it’s a well known fact throughout the metro that as a whole, the county looks down on anything not JoCo.
Johnson County should be able to take jobs from KCMO as they please using any incentives they desire. It is absolutely fine to take tens of thousands of jobs out of KCMO and then wonder why KCMO can’t afford to maintain attractions and infrastructure that JoCo residents use as if they were built and maintained by them. KCMO can not compete with JoCo when it comes to economic development. It’s very easy to take jobs from an urban are where you have to build parking garages etc and move to a suburban office park. It’s not easy to reverse that. Most of the growth in JoCo came at the expense of KCMO. It’s not just a handful of companies.
JoCo doesn’t want to be involved in any part of a regional transit plan because it needs to go to KCI? Never mind the fact that KCI is also part of a regional plan, and the fact that transit really needs to incorporate JoCo for a true regional system to succeed.
JoCo residents have every right to put down places like Raytown and Independence because, well they ARE crap compared to JoCo after all.
We already know all there is to know about KCMO, we may act ignorant, but in reality, we are very knowledgeable about all of KCMO and the entire Missouri side of the metro area. OK. Sure. Whatever you say.
KC will never change for that very reason. Finding reasons to justify some of the major things that keep metro KC in a rut.
Like I said, there are things that can be done to get this city on the same page, but if we are not even going to accept the fact that there is a problem. I can understand why nothing will ever change. Blame it on the civil war? Huh? That has nothing to do with the fact that companies and residents have been moving to JoCO to "hide" across state line and avoid any sort of responsibilities of being the second largest county in a major metro area. It's boils down to greed and selfishnesh, nothing more. This is 2009, not 1860. I don't want to pay the etax, company CEO does't want to drive into the plaza anymore. Just move to KS and all the problems go away.
This is why I will push people to live on the MO side every chance I get. Every person that ends up living in Lee’s Summit, Downtown, Northland, Hyde Park, Plaza, Blue Springs, Raymore etc, vs Olathe, Shawnee, Overland Park etc bring much more of a chance of keeping companies on the MO side rather than bolting for K-10 and Renner. Funding for the Zoo, stadiums, transit, arts, theaters etc all have a better chance, the metro as a whole has a better chance long term to take itself to the next level.
Instead, we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot and build office buildings in Lenexa as office buildings in KCMO continue to empty out. Attractions like the Zoo and museums will always be underfunded, transit will stop at the state line, resentment will continue fester as people point fingers at the other side of the city. This is a metro area of over 2 million people, but only 1 million (most of the time it’s only ½ million) of them carry 99% of the burden and nearly all the sacrifices because if they don’t, we lose what we do have.
This is one big city.
When we will start acting like it? I don’t know.
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