Relocating to suburbs (Kansas City, Lee's Summit, Blue Springs: high crime, safe area, buying)

[northbound74]

This is getting absurd. No part of the Northland is what I would call dangerous. It's every bit as safe as any part of Johnson County.
City by city, comparisons can be easily made, and the exact same things can be found on either side. I don't know why people don't get this. It's like saying avoid all of JoCo because Merriam has a higher crime rate. Oh, my goodness, don't you know that you might accidentally find yourself at risk in Merriam? Merriam has the same crime rate as Independence, and much higher than Raytown or Grandview. How does that make you feel, less safe over there in Johnson County?

Johnson County is an okay area, but don't trump it up to be something it isn't. Like it or not, it isn't superior to Lee's Summit or Gladstone or Parkville or Liberty or Blue Springs... people can live wherever they want, I don't care, just don't tell me your side of town is better than mine over some full-of-crap statistics.

[Samantha S]

Originally Posted by northbound74

This is getting absurd. No part of the Northland is what I would call dangerous. It's every bit as safe as any part of Johnson County.

Oh geez, and here we go again.

"every bit as safe as any part of Johnson County" Really? So there is NO part of the Northland where the odds of a crime occurring are ANY higher than say Berkshire neighborhood at 124th and Roe? Really?

I will certainly grant you that there are parts of JoCo and parts of the Northland where crime rates are both higher and lower. But when you get defensive and start talking in absolutes like that ....

Johnson County is an okay area, but don't trump it up to be something it isn't. Like it or not, it isn't superior to Lee's Summit or Gladstone or Parkville or Liberty or Blue Springs... people can live wherever they want, I don't care, just don't tell me your side of town is better than mine over some full-of-crap statistics.

Where in this thread or anywhere else did I say such a thing?

One of the things that is often touted about the Northland is that you can find great houses for less money than a similar house in JoCo. That's true!! And it's a big plus for many people. But it's okay to stop and examine the reasons why that might be. Isn't it? Is it due to crime rates? No, not directly nor entirely. But crime rates are a factor and they tie in to the many other factors that affect PERCEPTION and ultimately determine the resale prices of homes.

I must agree, this is getting quite absurd.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by Samantha S

Maybe not.

Once you have lived in an area for a long time, you don't think about certain things anymore. You automatically know which areas to avoid.

Right and avoiding areas never crosses my mind while in the Northland or really most of metro KC.

Enjoy JoCo, just be careful when you go north of 135th. It's a scary world out there. .

[northbound74]

You can take the worst part of the northland and find an equal percentage of like places in JoCo. Similarly, you take the best part of Johnson County and find an equal percentage of like places up north, all in terms of crime, of course.

[Samantha S]

Originally Posted by northbound74

Twist my words if you will samanthas, but you can take the worst part of the northland and find an equal percentage of like places in JoCo. Similarly, take the best part of Johnson County and find an equal percentage of like places up north.

I wasn't twisting your words, I was quoting you. Defensiveness sometimes makes us say things we didn't completely mean.

Trying reading my posts without the chip on your shoulder, you might find we agree more than we disagree.

Originally Posted by kcmo

avoiding areas never crosses my mind while in the Northland or really most of metro KC.

Maybe not when you're out for a gallon of milk. But when you are buying property? Do you really consider every single neighborhood in the Northland to be on equal footing for all of your needs and preferences? I'm betting not.

And thanks for your concern for my emotional well being. But business and pleasure take me all over the metro and surrounding states. There are a minute few areas where I feel "unsafe". There are LOTS of areas I think are wonderful, LOTS I think are nice, LOTS I think are okay, and a few I think are pretty crappy. I don't own property in all of them.

[sparksharp]

just don't tell me your side of town is better than mine over some full-of-crap statistics.

You appear to be taking this personally for some reason...and are having a difficult time dealing with the logic of the matter for some reason.

Hey...don't shoot the messenger here...it won't help the crime stats in the Northland no matter how you kick and stomp your feet! It is what it is...ya know?

If anyone wants to clean up the crime stats for the area, I guess they need to get involved in their local and state government and get a master plan together to lower those rates.

[northbound74]

Part of what I said goes back long before this conversation. Also, I guess you didn't get the part where I said look at EVERY other source for crime stats, and you'll see that the ones you're going on are not in line with those. I don't know why, but they're not. Simply put, the northland has no more of a crime problem than any other part of the metro.

[sparksharp]

Originally Posted by northbound74

Part of what I said goes back long before this conversation. Also, I guess you didn't get the part where I said look at EVERY other source for crime stats, and you'll see that the ones you're going on are not in line with those. I don't know why, but they're not. Simply put, the northland has no more of a crime problem than any other part of the metro.

I'd love too! Care to provide any links that would paint a different picture? I'm very open to new information if you have any and can site a credible source.

Frankly I thought the zip code route made a lot of sense to gauge crime. If one takes an entire county into consideration, I would think the stats would be less specific and watered down for a specific area. If one takes state statistics...the results would be even more watered down to gauge specific areas. I don't think anyone gauges crime by subdivisions or individual streets.

Again...I'd love to read up on your sources that would prove your assertion that the crime stats are not what was presented. I'm very open here. Lay it on me man!

[smellykat]

Sparksharp:

FYI - sounds like the safest place in KC

Leawood: The security zone - KansasCity.com

[RjRobb2]

Originally Posted by sparksharp

It is what it is...ya know?

That's the part you appear not to be able to understand. It isnt what it is. You are avoiding places that are very safe, low crime areas because of one website and their bull**** statistics. I do not know how many times I have to tell you that the Northland is safe with very little crime. I have lived here my entire life. I have lived in both counties and a few of the different areas. I have spent time in all the areas. You can leave your car unlocked, walk the streets at night, and generally do whatever without a worry.

Originally Posted by sparksharp

If anyone wants to clean up the crime stats for the area, I guess they need to get involved in their local and state government and get a master plan together to lower those rates.

They dont need to be cleaned up. I check the crime report in the local paper every week. There is hardly anything going on up here. There is a handful of robberies, a few vandalism reports, and very rarely a violent crime. There is never going to be a place with no crime but nothing worth worrying about happens up here. It is mostly teenagers doing their typical stupid **** that they do everywhere.

You do realize that their is a higher chance of you winning the lottery than being a random victim of a violent crime?

Let me ask you this, what is the price range you are looking for?