smoking and liquor laws in MO

[SILVERSAM]

So let me get this straight. You consider being able to buy liquor anytime you want a positive. So your vice is being able to drink when you want and it bothers you when laws restrict you from being able to do that. Since you are a adult.

You also state that smoking is something you don not do. And state that if you want to be in the 21st century well it needs to be banned.

Here in Missouri you can smoke and buy liq etc in a casino. Why? Because casinos are a huge cash cow for the state and they do not want to lose the revenue.

Im not for or against smoking or drinking. I used to do both. I am for a citizens choice to go where they want and not have gov dictating what your choices are and then blatently showing favortisim as with the casinos.

I have been in close to 200 cities in the past 2.5 years and I can say with certainty that people do not like the smoking bans. A lot comes down to having a law shoved down your throat that does not reflect the mood of the masses.

Prohibition in the 30s is a perfect example of it.

If you wanted to use the same logic with liquor laws Im sure your view would differ.

I would say that from dealing with a large group of coloradians you are also in the minority there. Well except for Boulder

[DinsdalePirahna]

Originally Posted by SILVERSAM

I have been in close to 200 cities in the past 2.5 years and I can say with certainty that people do not like the smoking bans.

I guess you have never been to NY or CA. the majority of people love no-smoking in those states, but then again more people lead healthier lifestyles

[SILVERSAM]

Hmm Ca and Ny. They also have some of the strictest gun laws in the country and the highest crime rates with guns. You also can get a ticket in Ca if you are smoking in your car with your kid but you can buy pot in vending machines at " approved locations for medicinal purposes only " wink, wink. In New York if you are sitting outside on a patio table you can't smoke but you can walk around a outside gate about 2 feet and its legal?

Healthy life style is cool. But it should not be regulated by the government.

And again its a minority not a majority. If smoking was the tobacco companies wouldnt exist.

But hey all the smog in LA does make for healther lifestyle. And we won't even mention the Hudson.

[lawnerd]

Originally Posted by OneKC

Smoking is banned in public places in all of Kansas. On the Missouri side of KC, KCMO, Independence, Lee's Summit, Liberty, and North KC have banned smoking in public places. Belton, Blue Springs, Gladstone and Parkville all have banned smoking in public places, but with many exemptions.

They all exempt casinos.

Raytown, Riverside and Smithville all rejected smoking bans.

Missouri has some of the most liberal alcohol laws in the US, thanks to Anheuser Busch. Bars can be open til 3am and liquor can be sold in grocery stores. Kansas has some really stupid liquor laws. Until recently, Sunday sales were banned. You can't sell non-alcohol products in a liquor store, and you can't sell liquor in a grocery store or convenience store. Comes from being the home of Carry Nation.

Many cities in Kansas have banned smoking, but the statewide law doesn't go into effect until July 1st of this year. Kansas is a highly republican state...so much for little government intervention

[cp1969]

All public places? Surely that isn't true. Such as, lighting up in Shawnee Mission Park will now be illegal? Or is it all indoor public places?

[lawnerd]

Originally Posted by cp1969

All public places? Surely that isn't true. Such as, lighting up in Shawnee Mission Park will now be illegal? Or is it all indoor public places?

Indoor Public places.

[OneKC]

Originally Posted by SILVERSAM

I have been in close to 200 cities in the past 2.5 years and I can say with certainty that people do not like the smoking bans. A lot comes down to having a law shoved down your throat that does not reflect the mood of the masses.
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An overwhelming number of polls show people support bans on smoking in indoor public areas. If it wasn't popular, legislators wouldn't be passing it everywhere, in liberal states and conservative states.

[stlcitygirl]

St Louis city and county will be smoke free in 2011, Springfield and Columbia have already passed the ban.

[Marksman84]

Originally Posted by stlcitygirl

St Louis city and county will be smoke free in 2011, Springfield and Columbia have already passed the ban.

St. Louis City will be smoke-free except:

Casino gaming floors and VIP lounges are exempted indefinitely.

Private clubs with no employees (what is this, like a 4:20 club?), tobaccos stores, designated hotel/motel smoking rooms, private residences (makes sense) and outdoor areas are exempted indefinitely.

And here's my favorite one:

Bars in existence on 1/2/2011 that are less than 2000 square feet - i.e. the dives and ****hole bars scattered across the area that proudly serve Busch on tap and month-old popcorn - are exempt until 1/2/2016!

So, STL City will almost be smoke-free, but's it definitely a step in the right direction.

[SILVERSAM]

Those **** holes as you call them pay a huge chunk of taxes.

Its like the liquor laws right before prohibition.

In fact all liquor needs to be banned.

Junk food needs to be banned

Fast food restaurants need to be banned

Well hell ban those **** hole bars

Gambling needs to be banned.

Hmmm what else. Oh man free speech needs to be banned.

Those conservative talk shows need to be banned

Ammo and Guns yep they need to be banned.

Well you know we as grown American citizens have to have the gov tell us what to do.

There is no way we can think for ourselfs

Oil needs to be banned

Oh yes meat. Can not eat meat. That needs to be banned

Furr yep that needs to be banned.