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Old 09-09-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Default Need help understanding county expenditures

Hi there,

I've been looking through county data for towns in southwest Kansas. I'm hoping someone can help me understand Federal Expenditure figures. I'll copy and paste Wichita County (Leoti) as an example below. I'd like to know what each category could potentially be. I'm sure there are different possibilities. If nothing else, I'd like to know why everyone lists the 2004 Fiscal year. What is the Dept. of Defense expenditure? And, in this example, what could possibly shoot the first number up to nearly 80 mil?

I appreciate any insight.



In fiscal year 2004:
Federal Government expenditure: $79,203,000 ($33561 per capita)
Department of Defense expenditure: $47,626,000
Federal direct payments to individuals for retirement and disability: $5,409,000
Federal other direct payments to individuals: $2,688,000
Federal direct payments not to individuals: $15,035,000
Federal grants: $4,639,000
Federal procurement contracts: $50,641,000 ($47,607,000 Department of Defense)
Federal salaries and wages: $790,000 ($0,000 Department of Defense)
Federal Government direct loans: $300,000
Federal guaranteed/insured loans: $1,291,000
Federal Government insurance: $27,724,000

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/county/Wich...#ixzz260mI09XO

Last edited by amorell; 09-09-2012 at 03:57 PM.. Reason: Clarification
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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Hi there,

I've been looking through county data for towns in southwest Kansas. I'm hoping someone can help me understand Federal Expenditure figures. I'll copy and paste Wichita County (Leoti) as an example below. I'd like to know what each category could potentially be. I'm sure there are different possibilities. If nothing else, I'd like to know why everyone lists the 2004 Fiscal year. What is the Dept. of Defense expenditure? And, in this example, what could possibly shoot the first number up to nearly 80 mil?

I appreciate any insight.



In fiscal year 2004:
Federal Government expenditure: $79,203,000 ($33561 per capita)
Department of Defense expenditure: $47,626,000
Federal direct payments to individuals for retirement and disability: $5,409,000
Federal other direct payments to individuals: $2,688,000
Federal direct payments not to individuals: $15,035,000
Federal grants: $4,639,000
Federal procurement contracts: $50,641,000 ($47,607,000 Department of Defense)
Federal salaries and wages: $790,000 ($0,000 Department of Defense)
Federal Government direct loans: $300,000
Federal guaranteed/insured loans: $1,291,000
Federal Government insurance: $27,724,000

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/county/Wich...#ixzz260mI09XO
My opinions:

1) They probably show 2004 because you are getting the data off city-data and that's probably the most recent information available when they populated the information and haven't updated the numbers since then. You might be able to get more recent info if you go directly to the source.

2) The expenditure is almost certainly some sort of military base or related installation. Maybe they built a radar installation there or bought some land for a future military site etc etc etc. If you saw a spike in the number it's quite likely to be a capital expenditure.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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DOD could also include military recruiting stations and possibly reserves and National Guard.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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DOD could also include military recruiting stations and possibly reserves and National Guard.
That can certainly be part of it. For 80million though and considering the local recruiters around here work out of strip malls and natl. guard armory's.....I do suspect it's a major capital investment like buying many square miles of western KS or putting in a major facility to track satellites etc etc.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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There's a Federal Government Expenditure of about 80 million and a DOD Expenditure of 48 million. In your estimation both expenditures would probably go towards the same purpose, i.e. capital investment in land and such? Also listed is a "Federal procurement contract," of which $47,607,000 is attributed to the DOD.

The more I look at the figures, the more questions I have. Who would be a good person to call? County Treasurer?
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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Since you're curious about federal money, call your Congressman.
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