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Old 08-06-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Mars City, TX / France
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I'm curious how much John Brown comes up in conversation in Kansas these days, if any. Especially on the eastern side of the state (Lawrence, etc.) Opinions were mixed back in the days (~1855), and maybe still.
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Old 08-06-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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Occasionally, but he isn't discussed much in my experience. Maybe in school or if the civil war happens to be the conversation...

Opinions will always be mixed, but if anyone loves John Brown, its probably Kansans. You can find him on the front license plates, in our capitol building, and in most historical murals around eastern Kansas. One can find his image all over Lawrence and the surrounding areas.

I recognize Brown is controversial, but I have a lot of respect for him. His methods are questionable, but then again, the people he went up against were some of the worst people in American history... its difficult to sympathize with people who own other people.

A lot of people in the south considered and still do consider Brown a terrorist. A view I obviously don't hold.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: East Aurora, NY
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He was a popular historic figure in Lawrence back when I went to KU (graduated 2007). I remember people loved the John Brown Jayhawk when the City did the Jayhawks on parade statutes.


https://fortunafaveat.com/tag/john-brown-jayhawk/
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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I would strongly note that Brown's "worst actions" did not occur until AFTER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacking_of_Lawrence

(not to be confused with the more violent sacking after that)

Like Mattks stated, when the person arguing with you is on the side of slavery, it's hard to argue that opposing them by all means neccesary makes you the "bad guy".
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This is not "these days" but when the Band 'Kansas' put out their first album, the front cover (it was an LP) was the mural of John Brown that was in the capitol building. It was in the mid 1970s.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:16 PM
 
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You can visit his cabin in Osawatomie, Kansas. Very cool. It has a trap door under the kitchen floor where runaway slaves could go underground to hide.


John Brown Museum - Osawatomie, Kansas


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.626d4d9ea63d
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Old 08-13-2018, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Mars City, TX / France
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He certainly had an interesting history, having traveled around and lived in many locations, having strong feelings about freedom and liberty for persons no matter the skin color, and backing up those convictions with action (instead of just words and lip service) more reminiscent of early Americans.

He earned the respect of many prominent leaders in the north, as well as regular "folks" everywhere else. I've gained a better understanding of him by reading about his life in detail, instead of the very limited information that tends to get circulated, with knee-jerk judgments of who he was.

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Old 08-13-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: SW OK (AZ Native)
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He still makes appearances. Last year I was in Wichita for a family event and stopped by at the Wichita Brewing Company. Great logo, substituting the rifle and Bible for brews.


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Old 08-13-2018, 09:45 PM
 
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That WBC makes me think of westboro Baptist church. I hadn’t thought of them or seen them in a long time.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Mars City, TX / France
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That beer looks good, and is making me thirsty!
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