02-08-2022, 10:46 AM
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DH and I were raised in Kansas. I grew up on a farm near Delphos, KS. We are now in our retirement years, and we are considering moving back to Kansas from Virginia. We are interested in Lincoln, KS, for the proximity to Salina and I-70. We have also read a bit about the free lot availability, and we would be interested in having a house built. We have no family to consider for our move. We are looking at factors such as health care, shopping, movies/plays/other "cultural" activities, churches, and recreational activities. We are not outdoorsy types, though. We're planning a Kansas visit later in the spring to investigate, but any help before then is much appreciated!
02-08-2022, 10:54 AM
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Even for retired people, I always have a few concerns when a place has badly rated public schools. Tells you something...
02-08-2022, 11:36 AM
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Lincoln is a dying farm town that would not be a wise investment as it is in a rapidly shrinking with no tax base other than ag. Climate is very windy and drought prone... Salina is 40-45 minutes away that would have most healthcare amenities. I would advise looking at a rural area like Jefferson County, KS- rural, but closer to healthcare in the Kansas City metro and Lawrence areas.
02-09-2022, 11:03 AM
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Lincoln is a dying farm town that would not be a wise investment as it is in a rapidly shrinking with no tax base other than ag. Climate is very windy and drought prone... Salina is 40-45 minutes away that would have most healthcare amenities. I would advise looking at a rural area like Jefferson County, KS- rural, but closer to healthcare in the Kansas City metro and Lawrence areas.
Who says they're looking for an investment? Sounds like they just want a decent place to live in retirement. They also mention being interested in the free lot program Lincoln is apparently offering. Does Jefferson County Ks. have such a program?
My point is that I don 't know why people make posts that try to discourage folks from living in an area. OP says they grew up in Kansas and lived on farms so I think they have an idea of what farm towns are like. As for the label "dying town". I see it used a lot. What do you propose to do with such towns other than to discourage people from living there? Should they all just dry up and blow away? Become ghost towns? In this day and age, with so many people able to work from home, small towns like Lincoln may become viable again. Folks tired of outrageous real estate prices in other areas may just find small towns like Lincoln appealing. They may not be doomed to die after all.
OP, I would highly encourage you to check out Lincoln if you make it to Kansas. Get out in the community and talk to folks who actually live there. They can tell you a lot more about life in Lincoln than anyone posting on internet forums. Good luck.
02-09-2022, 11:25 AM
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Who says they're looking for an investment? Sounds like they just want a decent place to live in retirement. They also mention being interested in the free lot program Lincoln is apparently offering. Does Jefferson County Ks. have such a program?
You bring up a valid point, but Kansas has been trying these "free lot/land" programs for many years with very little success. I actually am very familiar with the area as some of my relatives own larger parcels just to the west of Lincoln. If the OP hasn't been back in the area in many decades they might be shocked at the extent of the decline across the board. Real estate prices that are severely depressed are a big red flag that very bad economic conditions exist in the local area. Jefferson County doesn't have a free land program, but has easier access to much more highly regarded healthcare amenities in the Kansas City metro area that would be more ideal for retirees considering a rural area of Kansas. It also has more greenery, less extreme climate, and water (Perry Reservoir).
02-09-2022, 12:33 PM
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We aren't interested in living anywhere near the KC Metro area. I would go as far east as Manhattan and some of the rural areas in the vicinity, but husband wants to be no farther east of Salina than maybe Abilene. He would prefer further west but still in Kansas. We were last in Kansas about 5 years ago, and we've kept up with conditions in and around Delphos & Glasco, so won't be a shock. Both Kanopolis and Wilson lakes/reservoirs are within 35 miles or so of Lincoln.
02-09-2022, 02:51 PM
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My state job was in Salina for a year and it was a nice small town back in 1993. Then my job was transferred to Wichita which is much uglier than Salina. I would go visit and see what you think.
02-17-2022, 01:04 PM
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We looked at Lincoln on the internet as the city does have a website. Yes, close to Salina, except in bad weather, with snow/freezing rain and the weather in KS, especially the winters have been much colder. I take it that you have looked closely at the requirements for the free lot, and also where they are located, and if not, you really should. Most lots in cities like Lincoln sell for less $10,000, some as little as $4,000. We didn't care for its proximity to the wind turbine farms. Services and shopping are pretty non-existent, but there is always the internet for some of that.
Since you are retired, building a house that is overpriced for the area may not be of concern, but realize that homes often sell very slowly, think 2 or more years, and the properties that surround yours will help dictate the worth of your property. Cost of fuel greatly plays into the desirability of a commute or not.
City of Lincoln, Kansas (Their official website which mentions medical, etc.) Property tax will actually be higher in smaller towns from what I have seen as essential services have to be divided among a smaller number of residents.
Council Grove would be my #1 choice for a city to live in. Abilene has sort of went down hill since they put the candy factory, IMO. Chapman has improved since they had the tornado and rebuilt. Ellsworth might be worth a look. Many of the small towns in KS aren't comfortable with "outsiders", which would be different than when you grew up in a town. Most can't figure out why you would choose to move to a city like theirs, seriously, that is what we have experienced. Keep in mind that these days, even a couple of years can really change an area.
A better bet would be something off of I-70.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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