Everything you ever need to know about Wichita (home, living in)

[drjones96]

Originally Posted by goaliefight

So anyway, remember that if you are moving to Kansas, this is the state that outlawed evolution from school text books.

I don't know about you but I always find it absolutely HILARIOUS when I read about Die Hard Word-for-Word bible believers try to debunk evolution. There is very little evidence in their argument...and lots of hand waving..."And there you have it folks...God created all living things on the 6th day....ta-da!"

Footnote: I am a Christian

[Modron]

Once Sam Brownback becomes governor, and he will - Kansas will become a bigger, more backward, laughing stock than anyone could have ever imagined.

'Course, I'm wondering if Sam will bring Rick Santorum with him? They make such a cute couple.

[GraniteStater]

Sam Brownback is not a true fiscal conservative. He is a neoconservative as well as a social conservative. Social conservatives do well in largely rural states...

[Fiddlefeet]

Originally Posted by goaliefight

What until you hear this. Most of the conservatives I know don't believe in evolution. I was having a conversation with a coworker about a book from an author who was on this ridiculous talk radio program I ran across when surfing the channels one day. The author claims that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together only 2000 years ago. He also said the earth is only 2000 years old. So anyway, I was telling this to my coworker who is very right wing, but also pretty smart, and he agreed that the humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together and the earth is only 2000 years old.

I was like seriously? Haven't you ever heard of carbon dating? He said yes but that "carbon dating is just a theory that hasn't been proven". So at this point I was like "conversation over" because I didn't want to get into a debate and further alienate myself.

So anyway, remember that if you are moving to Kansas, this is the state that outlawed evolution from school text books.

Evolution IS a theory. One that is not proving out too well. Carbon dating is of questionable validity too often. I earned a degree in biology, worked at NIH in Betheda, Maryland for two years. There's more than one scientist there who doesn't accept the theory of evolution.

FYI

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Fiddlefeet

Evolution IS a theory. One that is not proving out too well. Carbon dating is of questionable validity too often. I earned a degree in biology, worked at NIH in Betheda, Maryland for two years. There's more than one scientist there who doesn't accept the theory of evolution.

FYI

I enjoy looking at the ancient fossilized remains of creatures and the Sternburg Museum of Natural History in Hays, KS is a favorite of mine. Most Kansans that I knokw do not believe that the Earth is only 2000 years old. Carbon dating is an excellent measure to study CO2 levels in the atmosphere in order to understand our climate system. Sure, some experts will say that temperature goes up and is followed by an increase in CO2 levels. However, that balance is being overwhelmed by an exponential increase in CO2 levels. Therefore, CO2 levels are now influencing temperature.

[Modron]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

Sam Brownback is not a true fiscal conservative. He is a neoconservative as well as a social conservative. Social conservatives do well in largely rural states...

Sam Brownback is going to be the next governor of Kansas. He sees the governorship as his stepping stone to the White House, along with his neoconservative, faux Christian ideology.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Modron

Sam Brownback is going to be the next governor of Kansas. He sees the governorship as his stepping stone to the White House, along with his neoconservative, faux Christian ideology.

This is what happens when the impacts of the brain drain in Kansas are felt. Only the bible thumpers are left in many of the more rural areas of the state who choose to elect a hypocritical character like Brownback. In this serious time we need to true moderate and fiscally conservative Republicans to step up to the plate- regardless of state. Independent views are definitely welcome.

[Modron]

In the past couplr of days Rep. Moran made a statement that Obama is easier to work with than Bush and that he didn't go to Washington to fight Democrats. I figure his days in Kansas politics are over. The rank and file wingnuts will never put up with a man who, actually, wants to get the job of governance done, rather than going on the attack against "eeeevil libruls". No matter how good a representative he was or how much good he did for Kansas, Moran is toast.

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

This is what happens when the impacts of the brain drain in Kansas are felt. Only the bible thumpers are left in many of the more rural areas of the state who choose to elect a hypocritical character like Brownback. In this serious time we need to true moderate and fiscally conservative Republicans to step up to the plate- regardless of state. Independent views are definitely welcome.

[Okie7597]

Originally Posted by drjones96

I don't know about you but I always find it absolutely HILARIOUS when I read about Die Hard Word-for-Word bible believers try to debunk evolution. There is very little evidence in their argument...and lots of hand waving

What you say is true (and I would go so far as to say there is *no* scientific evidence that can prove creation). However, die-hard evolution supporters do exactly the same thing (the hand-waving bit, that is). As others have pointed out, macroevolution is, at this point, merely a theory; the *study* of the possibility of macroevolution is certainly a science, but there are no concrete results proving the theory. It is disingenuous and academically dishonest to push the *theory* as proven fact. Darwinism has itself, essentially, become a religion to many of its supporters; fundamentally different from Christianity, but a religion nonetheless.

[poltergiest]

If evolution is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. The difference between science and religion is that science changes with new found facts, theory’s change based on new evidence and new found principals. Where as Creationism makes the facts bend to fit what the old book says is so even if you have to be stupid to believe it. I.E. putting a saddle on a triceratops at the KY museum for the mentally challenged and believers in the big man in the sky and talking snakes myth. Science has jumped man in to a life that we would not have dreamed of under religion. Remember 500 years ago we were burning people at the stake for saying the sun was the center of the universe. 200 years ago we burnt women and children at the stake for cavorting with the devil, or if someone said you did and you did not sink when dumped in water. Imagine what we would know now if religion had still ruled. Scary.