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12-24-2010, 07:07 AM
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Location: Prospect, KY
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Off Topic - people are not thinking of animal abuse or animal rights when they don't have enough money to feed themselves and their families...that is my point. Remember Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs? Basic needs need to be met before people begin to be able to address the needs of others.
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12-24-2010, 08:42 AM
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"Two weeks until vacation."
(set 11 hours ago)
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Location: Sleep and work in Arlington, VA; party in Washington, DC
12,050 posts, read 11,977,194 times
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Originally Posted by Cattknap
I am amused by those posters who someone know the minds and wills of "the majority of people." For me this kind of phrasing usually negates the credibility of the poster. There are lots of people struggling to live right now - losing their houses, jobs, cars, medical insurance and their feelings of self-worth. They aren't thinking of abused animals right now. They are thinking about how they are going to keep their families together, warm and fed. Get some perspective and stop judging people.
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Okay, I'll be the first to admit that abused animals were the last thing on my mind when I was unemployed from May-September. However that doesn't mean this news couldn't affect me.
What if a factory that made pet products that was looking to build in an area commutable from Hardin County but was turned off by Kentucky's rating in animal abuse? That's hundreds of jobs heading to TN or NC and leaving me with one less job possibility. Other employers get the same idea and no new jobs come making it harder for those who like KY to justify staying when you aren't bringing any bacon home.
My point is that Kentuckians need to address and make noise about some of these low rankings in quality-of-life catergories to make the state more attractive to employers and others.
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I said 80%....did you fail to see that? If you are of the 20%...hang in there....I'm proud of you, and you will do good in life and you are the kind of people we need. It's the ones that are constantly crying about something/anything that really gets on my nerves. Especially when I know they got it made compared to some of us.
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I think you are still making a rash generalization about younger workers. I can vouch there are some lazy younger workers who are jerks but the majority I run into are just decent folks trying to make honest bacon. Like it or not, anywhere that wants to stay alive needs to make sure their area is attractive to young college graduates. Why do you think young college grads live in Louisville over LaRue county?
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12-24-2010, 08:58 AM
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Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by Alanboy395
Why do you think young college grads live in Louisville over LaRue county?
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Exactly. Or even worse, why they prefer to live in Cincinnati or Nashville over any place in Kentucky. Anyone who thinks the brain-drain of young people out of Kentucky isn't an issue is just not thinking long term.
I've never understood an argument that ABC is the priority so we don't have time for XYZ. Sure, jobs are a priority now. But that doesn't mean we can't do this as well. And as you and I have been pointing out (apparently none too well!) by fixing those kinds of problems, we can help our job priority.
There is always an excuse not to tackle a problem. Unfortunately, Kentucky is short on time and long on excuses.
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12-24-2010, 02:11 PM
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Location: "My Old Kentucky Home"
308 posts, read 247,260 times
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Originally Posted by Alanboy395
Okay, I'll be the first to admit that abused animals were the last thing on my mind when I was unemployed from May-September. However that doesn't mean this news couldn't affect me.
What if a factory that made pet products that was looking to build in an area commutable from Hardin County but was turned off by Kentucky's rating in animal abuse? That's hundreds of jobs heading to TN or NC and leaving me with one less job possibility. Other employers get the same idea and no new jobs come making it harder for those who like KY to justify staying when you aren't bringing any bacon home.
My point is that Kentuckians need to address and make noise about some of these low rankings in quality-of-life catergories to make the state more attractive to employers and others.
I think you are still making a rash generalization about younger workers. I can vouch there are some lazy younger workers who are jerks but the majority I run into are just decent folks trying to make honest bacon. Like it or not, anywhere that wants to stay alive needs to make sure their area is attractive to young college graduates. Why do you think young college grads live in Louisville over LaRue county?
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LaRRRue......hum Larue....I have heard of Larue county but, can't say I know anything about it. Oh well.
Just another example of what we got to work with I guess.
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12-25-2010, 08:17 AM
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"Two weeks until vacation."
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Location: Sleep and work in Arlington, VA; party in Washington, DC
12,050 posts, read 11,977,194 times
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Originally Posted by HiBall
LaRRRue......hum Larue....I have heard of Larue county but, can't say I know anything about it. Oh well.
Just another example of what we got to work with I guess.
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Okay you can put in any county in KY you want that don't include Louisville, Lexington, or Bowling Green and you have the same thing happen. Young educated folks leaving as soon as they can.
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12-25-2010, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PONYPULR
I'm new to the area, but have been in the horse business all of my 50+ years. While traveling to Paris one very hot summer day, I saw a very young calf alone under a tree. I stopped, saw that he had suffered a major injury to a front leg, was covered with flies, dreadfully dehydrated, etc. He needed to be put out of his misery. I went to a nearby home and was told who owned the calf, that he was a "bad farmer" and that Bourbon County does not have an animal werfare organization. I called the animal control number and was told to call a number in, I believe it was Scott County. I don't know who it was I spoke to there, they did not answer with a "Hello, Blah-Bity-Blah Agency", but the guy said he'd look into it. I do not know what ever transpired, but there certainly was no urgency in anyone's response to me that day.
So, is that correct, there's no Animal Welfare group in Bourbon County?
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this is totally incorrect....Bourbon County contracts with the Paris Animal Welfare Society (PAWS) - this shelter is located at the fairgrounds in Paris and they have a good reputation. Bourbon County also has a full time animal control officer (good guy, too!) so it sounds like you were given totally erroneous information.
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12-25-2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Off Topic
Nor does it equal lack of animal abuse. It's not a perfect measure. But we're not in the middle of the pack - we're at the absolute bottom. As I said, at a bare minimum, that suggests a problem.
Rather than make mathematical arguments to show we should be ranked in the bottom third instead of dead last, I'd prefer to admit we have a problem so we can start to fix it.
And I want to be clear -- I am not singling you out. But I see a persistent theme among many hear to explain away or minimize our poor rankings in almost every single poll. Again, until we admit we have a problem, we can't fix it. And in that case we'll continue to be among the worst in health, education, animal abuse, child care, and so on.
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Tough to single me out as I am typically not one to brush over KY's many problems - that's InLondon
You must not visit often
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12-25-2010, 09:54 AM
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Location: "My Old Kentucky Home"
308 posts, read 247,260 times
Reputation: 132
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Originally Posted by Alanboy395
Okay you can put in any county in KY you want that don't include Louisville, Lexington, or Bowling Green and you have the same thing happen. Young educated folks leaving as soon as they can.
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12-25-2010, 02:55 PM
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Location: NYC but Georgia on my mind...
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Unfortunately Kentucky is a puppy mill state. I have driven to rural Kentucky and found dogs running loose, chained up to trees, locked in huge caged fences, abandoned on the road to die, and dead dogs pulled over to the side of the roads which are decaying.
The way animals get treated in the state is absouletly horrific. Not saying Kentucky is the only state that has these problems, but it was some of the worst I have seen and I had been to rural Mississippi, where the animals are not generally appreciated and well kept.
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12-26-2010, 03:00 PM
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Location: Louisville, Kentucky
1,452 posts, read 2,363,769 times
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Originally Posted by easydoesit
Tough to single me out as I am typically not one to brush over KY's many problems -
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Right -- which is why I speficially stated that I wasn't singling you out and that it was a general comment about a pattern I see in here all too often.
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You must not visit often.
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Well, my comments total three times as many as yours and have been read almost four times as much, so I'm thinking that isn't the case!
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