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Old 09-12-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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The environment has so much to do with it. It's a shame what has been allowed to happen in some areas where the cancer rates have skyrocketed due to pollution. I hope you are doing well now Beilart. Cancer is a horrible thing.

I am doing great, thank you. We caught it during the stage 2 so I was able to combat it with surgery. So far so good. Will be cancer free for 6 years the end of this month.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:45 PM
 
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I am doing great, thank you. We caught it during the stage 2 so I was able to combat it with surgery. So far so good. Will be cancer free for 6 years the end of this month.

That is great to hear! So much progress has been made in cancer treatment and detection, but so much more needs to be done also.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:40 PM
 
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What am I supposed to comment on? We have the highest incidence of smoking in the country and have been slow in passing no smoking policies in public areas and such. This is historically a tobacco producing state so it has made anti-tobacco positions difficult. We just recently passed a smoke free ordinance in the city I live in and its the 3rd largest city in the state. It's a highly political issue.

State-Specific Prevalence of Current Cigarette Smoking Among Adults and Secondhand Smoke Rules and Policies in Homes and Workplaces --- United States, 2005


There is also a very karst topography in central KY which causes a huge problem with radon gas. There needs to be stricter radon tesing guidelines since it also causes cancer.

Along with the karst topography you have a lot of running groundwater combined with a highly agricultural area. Many rural areas still get drinking water from wells and springs and due to run off from pesticides it may contain carcinogens.

That is just a few of the contributors. These are not new issues to those of us who have worked in healthcare and other related fields in the state. We are well aware of the problems. Do you think a youtube report is some big revelation to the dire issues in KY? Cancer occurs in all states and it's not surprising it occurs in higher incidence due to lifestyle and evironmental factors.
The youtube was of a network affiliate TV news broadcast in Louisville.
I don't think it's some big revelation, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported on the same news item. It was a news item. I didn't make it up. Why the hostility. If you can prove that the news item is false assumptions, do so.
Maybe you (and Kentuckians) misunderstand. I was just wondering if Kentuckians are aware of that problem. Or maybe the Kentuckians think it's great and nothing should be done about it. Or maybe that such problems don't deserve any more than a shoulder shrug and an apathetic mumble "oh well". Or maybe that studies are biased against Kentucky carried out by liberal commies.
Apparently, most Kentuckians live in denial and apathy about the world around them. Except football and basketball, on those themes kentuckians are fully aware of all events, results, personalities, and data and statistics.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:00 PM
 
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The youtube was of a network affiliate TV news broadcast in Louisville.
I don't think it's some big revelation, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported on the same news item. It was a news item. I didn't make it up. Why the hostility. If you can prove that the news item is false assumptions, do so.
Maybe you (and Kentuckians) misunderstand. I was just wondering if Kentuckians are aware of that problem. Or maybe the Kentuckians think it's great and nothing should be done about it. Or maybe that such problems don't deserve any more than a shoulder shrug and an apathetic mumble "oh well". Or maybe that studies are biased against Kentucky carried out by liberal commies.
Apparently, most Kentuckians live in denial and apathy about the world around them. Except football and basketball, on those themes kentuckians are fully aware of all events, results, personalities, and data and statistics.
Another thing you forgot to mention about is the fact that freon is still the preferred refrigerant to use in cars and commercial AC units in southern IN and Louisville region. Apparently the 1980s has not come around yet and the Montreal Protocol does not exist in this area of the country. It just boggles my mind that this still occurs.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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Another thing you forgot to mention about is the fact that freon is still the preferred refrigerant to use in cars and commercial AC units in southern IN and Louisville region. Apparently the 1980s has not come around yet and the Montreal Protocol does not exist in this area of the country. It just boggles my mind that this still occurs.

There are laws about the recapturing of freon. There have been since the 1990 Clean Air Act.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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The youtube was of a network affiliate TV news broadcast in Louisville.
I don't think it's some big revelation, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported on the same news item. It was a news item. I didn't make it up. Why the hostility. If you can prove that the news item is false assumptions, do so.
Maybe you (and Kentuckians) misunderstand. I was just wondering if Kentuckians are aware of that problem. Or maybe the Kentuckians think it's great and nothing should be done about it. Or maybe that such problems don't deserve any more than a shoulder shrug and an apathetic mumble "oh well". Or maybe that studies are biased against Kentucky carried out by liberal commies.
Apparently, most Kentuckians live in denial and apathy about the world around them. Except football and basketball, on those themes kentuckians are fully aware of all events, results, personalities, and data and statistics.

Evidently, reading comprehension is a major problem where you come from...lol. I just went over many of the major causations of high cancer rates in KY in my post. Obviously, I am familiar with the problem and have given it some thought. Your stereotype of Kentuckians might be just that...a bigoted stereotype.
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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Another thing you forgot to mention about is the fact that freon is still the preferred refrigerant to use in cars and commercial AC units in southern IN and Louisville region. Apparently the 1980s has not come around yet and the Montreal Protocol does not exist in this area of the country. It just boggles my mind that this still occurs.
All vehicles with A/C use a refrigerant in one form or another. It's no different here than anywhere else in the country.

Freon (R12) hasn't been manufactured since 1994 and it would be difficult to find any remaining automotive product.

Why do you state that the Montreal Protocol does not exist in this area?

Please explain.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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All vehicles with A/C use a refrigerant in one form or another. It's no different here than anywhere else in the country.

Freon (R12) hasn't been manufactured since 1994 and it would be difficult to find any remaining automotive product.

Why do you state that the Montreal Protocol does not exist in this area?

Please explain.
"Freon (R12) hasn't been manufactured since 1994"

That doesn't stop them from continuing to use the old supplies that they have stockpiled.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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Evidently, reading comprehension is a major problem where you come from...lol. I just went over many of the major causations of high cancer rates in KY in my post. Obviously, I am familiar with the problem and have given it some thought. Your stereotype of Kentuckians might be just that...a bigoted stereotype.
Thanks much, but your posts were not about Kentucky problems, but your assumptions of me.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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"Freon (R12) hasn't been manufactured since 1994"

That doesn't stop them from continuing to use the old supplies that they have stockpiled.
"The continued use of CFC-12 is not banned. Even though production of CFC-12 ended on December 31, 1995, use of CFC-12 is still permitted, so you can continue to use the CFC-12 that is in your vehicle now, and your service technician can continue to put it in your vehicle, as long as supplies are available." Questions & Answers on Motor Vehicle Air Conditioning | Ozone Layer Protection - Regulatory Programs | US EPA
(sorry, I was off by a year)

There are some dangerous substitutes out there but as far as genuine R12 there is no stockpile. It's been close to 16 years since it was produced.

What does this have to do with the original topic?
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