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Old 02-19-2008, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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What few people seem to understand is history. While we will always have our villians, bad guys, etc, the primary reason countries capitulate when attacked is the human instict to survive. Life is a hugely instinctive value. No normal animal whether human or otherwise wants to die, and we all do everything we can to avoid an untimely demise. In the 1960's, the United States Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional because of an abnormally high ratio of black men being executed. It was so out of balance that execution of a white man was almost unheard of. The outcome of that decision is that many many predominately black area's of our cities have become shooting galleries or death by committee, even committees of one.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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It still comes to the fact that alot of people would rather pay for the electric bill for a couple of minutes, than to pay for a life time of house, food, medical, clotheing and all the other things that go with houseing a death row inmate. So they just need to start cleaning house. BZZZZZZZT SPAAAAAARK BZZZZZZZZZZT.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:18 PM
edk
 
Location: Toronto
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Capital punishment doesn't work. When it was abolished in Canada, the murder rate actually went down. This has happened in many other places.

Mistakes can be made, and are impossible to rectify. I can think of three men who were convicted of muirder recently in Canada (Marshall, Morin and Milgaard), and spent many years in prison, only later to be exonerated and released. What if they had been executed?

It's barbaric, and most really advanced countries have stopped it (Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Holland, to name just a few. In keeping capital punishment, the US is in the company of such places as Saudi Arabia, China and Pakistan.

Sure, it's the Law of the Land. So was slavery, for many years in the southern US. Is this an argument for reestablishing it?
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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EDK, no one denies that a possibility for the execution of innocent people could happen, but very, very rarely. What is real and anti-death penalty thinking denys is the fact that hundreds of innocent people die yearly in the US at the hands of somebody. Odds are the three you speak of, while exhonorated, were likely involved in less than innocent situations giving law enforcement probable cause...

I don't like the death penalty either, but if someone believes in it enough to kill a pizza driver for a $20.00 bill, then that person's beliefs obviously should be endorsed.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:19 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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I'm in the process of moving 70 miles. What goes in what box. House or storage? What room to put it in? If they do away with the death penalty ,make those convicted of capital offenses move people for, say 20 years. That should drop the crime rate drastically! lol
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Capital punishment doesn't work. When it was abolished in Canada, the murder rate actually went down. This has happened in many other places.

Mistakes can be made, and are impossible to rectify. I can think of three men who were convicted of muirder recently in Canada (Marshall, Morin and Milgaard), and spent many years in prison, only later to be exonerated and released. What if they had been executed?

It's barbaric, and most really advanced countries have stopped it (Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Holland, to name just a few. In keeping capital punishment, the US is in the company of such places as Saudi Arabia, China and Pakistan.

Sure, it's the Law of the Land. So was slavery, for many years in the southern US. Is this an argument for reestablishing it?


Well then maybe all the folks that don't want the death penalty should be the ones who get to pay the the inmates stay for the 20, 30 or how ever long they live in prison 100%. And those of us that want it "the death penalty" should be able to keep our money and use it for or own purpose. Or we could just send them all up to Canada to live out their lives, and do like England did when they shipped their convicts to Australia. Oh I'm sorry, they where one of the, how did you put it "ADVANCE COUNTRIES"? Then they turned around and started killing off the Aboriginies or enslaving them on their own land.
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