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Old 01-13-2008, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Is that 1850's or 1950???

Reason I'm asking: areas that included JP region were virtually barbarian lawless and uncivilized inhospitable way back circa 1850 until after the civil war.

Y'all remember Jayhawk Redlegs and Quantrill Raiders doncha?? These were ruthless crazy sons of ******* from the West that reached about to Dixie Hwy literally burning and pillaging everything they found.
Dixie Hwy in Louisville??? Wow how interesting!
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:15 PM
 
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Dixie Hwy in Louisville??? Wow how interesting!
More like Munfordville than Louisville. There's even detachment of Quantrill Raiders among Civil War re-enactors.

Missy, if you like history check out Fort Duffeild nearby you at West Point during Memorial Day weekend encampment among the civil war crowd under conditions of 'full immersion' replicating what times were like.

Also Civil War Days at Hart Co sometime in Summer. Every detail and historical fact of CW times been preserved for generations with walking, talking history re-enactors, musket shoot competitions and all kinds of cool stuff.

If I had to pin down a reason for Jackson Purchase even today feeling remote to the rest, it would be partly based on how life was lived 150 yrs ago. During that time West Point South of Louisville was considered the westernmost busy little river trade port town on the railroad line here that runs from Chicago to New Orleans. I think if folks at western regions feel gyped and left out, though aint no reason they should, its got alot to do with railroad lines running North/South setting the pace.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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More like Munfordville than Louisville. There's even detachment of Quantrill Raiders among Civil War re-enactors.

Missy, if you like history check out Fort Duffeild nearby you at West Point during Memorial Day weekend encampment among the civil war crowd under conditions of 'full immersion' replicating what times were like.

Also Civil War Days at Hart Co sometime in Summer. Every detail and historical fact of CW times been preserved for generations with walking, talking history re-enactors, musket shoot competitions and all kinds of cool stuff.

If I had to pin down a reason for Jackson Purchase even today feeling remote to the rest, it would be partly based on how life was lived 150 yrs ago. During that time West Point South of Louisville was considered the westernmost busy little river trade port town on the railroad line here that runs from Chicago to New Orleans. I think if folks at western regions feel gyped and left out, though aint no reason they should, its got alot to do with railroad lines running North/South setting the pace.
We went to Fort Duffield and hiked a few times but during the civil war days they want payment so we didn't go. We'll have to next time! We pass through West Point ALOT so I find these things interesting.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Is that 1850's or 1950???
1950's.

To follow up on your other point, a lot of confederate guerrillas did come out of that region. The famous raider Jerome Clarke, a/k/a "Sue Mundy", was hung in Louisville during the latter stages of the Civil War. He was so attractive that the papers spread rumors he was a woman in order to embarrass the union authorities.

Marcellus Jerome Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:08 AM
 
Location: cincinnati northern, ky
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i have never been out to the jackson purchase area but i have been to nearby dryersburg and memphis TN
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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my gggrandfather rode with Quantrills raiders through the war and beyond, he was from Eastern Missouri. I read his memoir about 20 years ago, from what i remember, he never went east of paducah.
i am digging out my copy to re-read. Of course, he lived to be an old man, and might have sweetened up his own biography.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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my gggrandfather rode with Quantrills raiders through the war and beyond, he was from Eastern Missouri. I read his memoir about 20 years ago, from what i remember, he never went east of paducah.
i am digging out my copy to re-read. Of course, he lived to be an old man, and might have sweetened up his own biography.
That is very cool! Is it published?
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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That is very cool! Is it published?
I come from a long line of reprobates!
He had it privately published for family and friends, most of the family still have copies.
He swam the Mississippi on xmas day from Kaskaskia Island to Chester, Il for a barrel of whiskey, whatta guy!
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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He had it privately published for family and friends, most of the family still have copies.
I wonder if you should not approach a publishing house to see if it's publishable. There is a lot of interest in civil war diaries. I know the University of Louisiana has a terrific press that specializes in Civil War material, and my bet is that the University of Missouri might be interested as well.

You won't get rich (although if you do, I expect a new car!) but it would be great to have this shared outside of the family.

(I had an ancestor who was in the Union army stationed in Kentucky - maybe your great-great-grandfather took a shot at my great-great-grandfather!)
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:59 AM
 
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For sure that kinda legacy means alot! I was stunned at intensity of Civil War re-enactors, many were literally filling shoes of direct anscestors, incredibly knowledgable. It was like they could spaek all day in character. Traditions been handed down across generations.

Missy, I hiked the back trail through the woods from lower parking lot at Ft.Duffield West Point to the encampment - not even knowing ticket booth at main entrance on top of the roadway hill was there, stepped into the Rebel Camp wearing my usual overalls and workboots. Glad nobody was firing live ammo or i mighta been shot. Re-enactors in full immersion of living history welcomed me stepping from trail in the woods practically as one of their own without stepping outa CW character - it was great!!

Kshe95gal I'll betcha Quantrill detachment of re-enactors wanna read those memoirs too, specially reviving gggp's acquaintance with em attaching stories and lore to their camp. Apparently Quantrill forces were hundreds strong at their peak in 1863 and ranged from Missouri to Texas from what I'm reading tonite. Then circa 1865 depleted remnants including Quantrill himself, after lengthy and healthy career massacring and burning towns out West were finally bagged in Spencer Co northeast of Hart Co Munfordville "Civil War Days" celebration on Dixie Hwy about halfway between Bowling Green and Louisville. Come visit us and join outrageous fun and festivities, meet gggp's pals and put yerself alongside him in the same timeframe.

Hart County Civil War Days Schedule (http://www.visitmunfordville.com/cwdays07.html - broken link)
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