Which of Kentucky's largest metros do you prefer, not prefer to live in? Why? (Lexington: public schools, subdivision)

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by stephanieuk

We'll my views are just my opinion, thats all. I apologize if anyone took offense. I am not one that gets upset when someone says things I don't agree with, I tend to just let it roll off my shoulders. BUT with that said, I don't like to hurt peoples feelings either.

My reasons for thinking Louisville has a dirty feel to it are things like Dixie Hwy, Preston Hwy, almost all of downtown with the exception of 4th street (which I do like to visit from time to time), the rusty bridges over the water (I know the just painted one of them), the dirty river water, and just overall a lack of landscaping and well kept areas. And of course, this one is going to make someone mad, but a lot of the people I see are just a mess, except for the educated ones I see out in Cherokee park (who are greatly liberal-which I am not)..... and Prospect (east end is nice).

When I was in undergrad at UK, it was very apparent who the girls and guys were from Louisville. A lot of the girls were overly trendy and always willing to take a more free approach with things like spring break and the guys would even comment about O' I bet she is from Louisville...

Yes, they sterotype, but SERIOUSLY, who doesn't?? I am SHOCKED that Obama won Fayette County. I am NOT shocked about him having a win in Louisville. He is the most Liberal Senator we have ever had, his voting record shows that.

I have many friends in Louisville, there are great people everywhere! Some people obviously LOVE IT. It just absolutely is not for me, as I am sure that Lexington is just absolutely isn't for others... and that's ok with me, It doesn't hurt my feelings that anyone would feel like that.

Here's a toast***

To Each Their Own**Do What Makes YOU Happy** I hope everyone has a great day no matter where you are!!!!!!

Honey you are entitled to your opinion and I apologize for getting aggrivated.

[EclecticEars]

Originally Posted by stephanieuk

We'll my views are just my opinion, thats all. I apologize if anyone took offense. I am not one that gets upset when someone says things I don't agree with, I tend to just let it roll off my shoulders. BUT with that said, I don't like to hurt peoples feelings either.

My reasons for thinking Louisville has a dirty feel to it are things like Dixie Hwy, Preston Hwy, almost all of downtown with the exception of 4th street (which I do like to visit from time to time), the rusty bridges over the water (I know the just painted one of them), the dirty river water, and just overall a lack of landscaping and well kept areas. And of course, this one is going to make someone mad, but a lot of the people I see are just a mess, except for the educated ones I see out in Cherokee park (who are greatly liberal-which I am not)..... and Prospect (east end is nice).

When I was in undergrad at UK, it was very apparent who the girls and guys were from Louisville. A lot of the girls were overly trendy and always willing to take a more free approach with things like spring break and the guys would even comment about O' I bet she is from Louisville...

Yes, they sterotype, but SERIOUSLY, who doesn't?? I am SHOCKED that Obama won Fayette County. I am NOT shocked about him having a win in Louisville. He is the most Liberal Senator we have ever had, his voting record shows that.

I have many friends in Louisville, there are great people everywhere! Some people obviously LOVE IT. It just absolutely is not for me, as I am sure that Lexington is just absolutely isn't for others... and that's ok with me, It doesn't hurt my feelings that anyone would feel like that.

Here's a toast***

To Each Their Own**Do What Makes YOU Happy** I hope everyone has a great day no matter where you are!!!!!!

While I don't think Louisville is very dirty or liberal, I respect your viewpoint. I must also say that I can't stand Lexington--thoroughly can't stand it. Northern Kentucky, to me, is the best of what Kentucky has to offer. What's great about this country is that we have a diverse array of personalities and interests who are allowed to feel comfortable in any niche they choose.

Thank you for putting a "breath mint" in the Kentucky forum. Some on this forum tend to become very defensive over even small comments that are negative about Kentucky are made. I, too, don't seek to offend or discourage anybody from moving here. While I don't like living here in Kentucky and not afraid to say it, I'm also as quick as the rest of the gang to point out some of our state's positives.

To each their own.

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by jcm1986

While I don't like living here in Kentucky and not afraid to say it, I'm also as quick as the rest of the gang to point out some of our state's positives.

May I please have some examples aside from this post?

[stx12499]

Originally Posted by stephanieuk

We'll my views are just my opinion, thats all. I apologize if anyone took offense. I am not one that gets upset when someone says things I don't agree with, I tend to just let it roll off my shoulders. BUT with that said, I don't like to hurt peoples feelings either.

My reasons for thinking Louisville has a dirty feel to it are things like Dixie Hwy, Preston Hwy, almost all of downtown with the exception of 4th street (which I do like to visit from time to time), the rusty bridges over the water (I know the just painted one of them), the dirty river water, and just overall a lack of landscaping and well kept areas. And of course, this one is going to make someone mad, but a lot of the people I see are just a mess, except for the educated ones I see out in Cherokee park (who are greatly liberal-which I am not)..... and Prospect (east end is nice).

When I was in undergrad at UK, it was very apparent who the girls and guys were from Louisville. A lot of the girls were overly trendy and always willing to take a more free approach with things like spring break and the guys would even comment about O' I bet she is from Louisville...

Yes, they sterotype, but SERIOUSLY, who doesn't?? I am SHOCKED that Obama won Fayette County. I am NOT shocked about him having a win in Louisville. He is the most Liberal Senator we have ever had, his voting record shows that.

I have many friends in Louisville, there are great people everywhere! Some people obviously LOVE IT. It just absolutely is not for me, as I am sure that Lexington is just absolutely isn't for others... and that's ok with me, It doesn't hurt my feelings that anyone would feel like that.

Here's a toast***

To Each Their Own**Do What Makes YOU Happy** I hope everyone has a great day no matter where you are!!!!!!

These are gross stereotypes. Also, you are very right that city girls are much different than country ones. But, as the many political analysts said last night, many Kentuckians outside the city saw Obama as Louisville's candidate or the "downtown Louisville" candidate. What shocked me was that the exit polls showed 2 in 10 Kentuckians admitted race was a factor in who they voted for, by far the highest of any state. How embarrassing! Based on what I see around here, I doubt that includes many Louisvillians. Even cobolt on her last visit noticed all the interracial couples and felt the racial divides in the city, although concrete, are not as riveting as they are in many northern and midwestern cities.

Here are the results by zip for Louisville.

courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

Many parts inside I-264 voted for Obama by a 7:1 margin! This list shows how diametrically different Louisville is from the rest of KY. In fact, the only part of the city that voted even close to how KY did was the SW part of the city, which is also Missymomof3's area. Perhaps this is why her views are more in line with the rest of the state. Ever since I moved to Louisville and travelled the state, I realized that Louisville really DOESNT belong in the state. It really has nothing in common with the rest of the state. The same can be said about Lexington around UK's campus.

Honestly, why all this comparison anyways? Face it, NKY is NOT its own area. Like it or not, it is geographically and functionally a suburb and bedroom community to Cincinnati. The locals may not see it that way, but cultural demographers and businesses do. The same can be said of Louisville and S. Indiana. Also, Lexington is a SMALL TOWN compared to Louisville and the NKY/Cincinnati metro area. So why compare apples and oranges? Each place has its advantages for its size.

[EclecticEars]

Originally Posted by stx12499

Also, you are very right that city girls are much different than country ones.

Hey, I've lived in tiny farm town, small town/bedroom community, suburb, and city. There are general differences in girls in all four places!

Originally Posted by stx12499

What shocked me was that the exit polls showed 2 in 10 Kentuckians admitted race was a factor in who they voted for, by far the highest of any state. How embarrassing! Based on what I see around here, I doubt that includes many Louisvillians.

Many parts inside I-264 voted for Obama by a 7:1 margin!

I'm not even remotely a Democrat, but I find the 2:10 admission embarrassing, also. I don't like Obama because of politics and world view, frankly, but the fact that he is HALF black or even went to a nutjob church doesn't bother me.

Still, what's to say for states like Mississippi or Alabama where 80-90% of black voters went for Obama in part because (as many of them admitted) his color? Logic tells me that Hillary didn't win b/c of her color in those states.

My race talk ends now. I don't want to stray any more off-topic and start a war.

Originally Posted by stx12499

Ever since I moved to Louisville and travelled the state, I realized that Louisville really DOESNT belong in the state. It really has nothing in common with the rest of the state. The same can be said about Lexington around UK's campus.

That's right. Jefferson County inside I-265 isn't reflective of Kentucky. (The Outer Loop, 7th Street Road, and Dixie Highway corridors would have to be exceptions, though.) Northern Kentucky (north of Crittenden and Grant's Lick) doesn't reflective, either. Lexington...well, I think it is a very Kentucky-ish city in terms of the feel, architecture, and peoples' accents, but the area around UK is left-leaning, so I see your point.

[censusdata]

Originally Posted by jcm1986

That's right. Jefferson County inside I-265 isn't reflective of Kentucky. (The Outer Loop, 7th Street Road, and Dixie Highway corridors would have to be exceptions, though.)

I linked maps from the Census website on percent of people in each census tract that were born in KY - The South End is over 90% Kentucky born while the East End is less than 50% Kentucky if memory serves me right. What ever the exact percents it was a substantial difference

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by stx12499

These are gross stereotypes. Also, you are very right that city girls are much different than country ones. But, as the many political analysts said last night, many Kentuckians outside the city saw Obama as Louisville's candidate or the "downtown Louisville" candidate. What shocked me was that the exit polls showed 2 in 10 Kentuckians admitted race was a factor in who they voted for, by far the highest of any state. How embarrassing! Based on what I see around here, I doubt that includes many Louisvillians. Even cobolt on her last visit noticed all the interracial couples and felt the racial divides in the city, although concrete, are not as riveting as they are in many northern and midwestern cities.

Here are the results by zip for Louisville.

courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

Many parts inside I-264 voted for Obama by a 7:1 margin! This list shows how diametrically different Louisville is from the rest of KY. In fact, the only part of the city that voted even close to how KY did was the SW part of the city, which is also Missymomof3's area. Perhaps this is why her views are more in line with the rest of the state. Ever since I moved to Louisville and travelled the state, I realized that Louisville really DOESNT belong in the state. It really has nothing in common with the rest of the state. The same can be said about Lexington around UK's campus.

Honestly, why all this comparison anyways? Face it, NKY is NOT its own area. Like it or not, it is geographically and functionally a suburb and bedroom community to Cincinnati. The locals may not see it that way, but cultural demographers and businesses do. The same can be said of Louisville and S. Indiana. Also, Lexington is a SMALL TOWN compared to Louisville and the NKY/Cincinnati metro area. So why compare apples and oranges? Each place has its advantages for its size.

Actually Shively voted for Obama but may be due to its large black population.

[sandman1]

stephanieuk I agree with you 100%. I went to UK as well and know where you are coming from. I live in lexington as well and compared to louisville it's no contest. You can't beat Keenlend in the fall and you can't compare the beauty of the two cities. When did you graduate? People on here get hyper sensitive about this stuff and get rubbed the wrong way..God forbid you disagree with them...ha.

[Louisvilleslugger]

[quote=sandman1;3834820]

I know that this was directed towards Missy but I'd like to ask you a question or two.

why is louisville southern in your opinion.

Why the Gateway city to the South, Midwestern to you? It's pretty well established that Kentucky is a Southern state (officially). Louisville is a city approaching 1.5 million in population, I wouldn't expect it nor Nashville, nor Richmond to be exact replicas of Mayberry, Tn. Urban areas North and South think, live, and vote differently from the rural areas of the state. Louisville is just pointed out more because it border Indiana and is truely the only "big city" in Kentucky. Ironically however the only major city to vote Republican in the last election was Cincinnati, Ohio, not Nashville, Birmingham, nor Little Rock, but... Cincy!

I am not talking about geography here because as I mentioned that is not really the dispute in this thread...why do you think louisville is southern or has that southern feel to it.

Well I'm a strong believer that native Louisvillians (through the generations) are Southerners. Missy lives in Southwest Jefferson county which is where alot of residents of the Old city of Louisville fled to, to avoid urban decay and crime. The people in Southwest Jefferson county as pointed out are over 90% kentucky born, which is arguably the highest percentage in the city. So would you rather look towards the original natives of the city or the transplants in Eastern Jefferson county to base this decision off of? These people are still in Louisvillians may I add and there accents are the true accents of Louisville.

I would like to think that northen kentucky has that but I am objective enough to realize that it probably doesn't seem like that to others.

Just think about Northern Kentucky. It's one of the fastest growing areas of the state. Who do you think are populating these Suburban counties South of Cincinnati?... Probably people from Cincinnati or...Yankees.

What defines southern in your mind for louisville and why does it matter so much to you?

History, culture, dialect, cuisine, religion ECT.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/793237-post5.html

[Louisvilleslugger]

Originally Posted by censusdata

I linked maps from the Census website on percent of people in each census tract that were born in KY - The South End is over 90% Kentucky born while the East End is less than 50% Kentucky if memory serves me right. What ever the exact percents it was a substantial difference

Can you give me a link to that info please.