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Old 04-22-2008, 04:58 PM
 
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This is likely a satire, but still it contains a loose sentiment some liberal Louisvillians feel. There is a disconnect between the state's largest city and her rural neighbors, bur is this kind of article necessary?

From Louisville's liberal alt weekly, Leo:

Home | LEO Weekly

Summary of My Discontent: A cry for secession
By Jim Welp

The time has come for Louisville to secede from Kentucky. The two have been at philosophical odds ever since our forefathers chose Frankfort as the stateís bucolic capital in 1792, ensuring a salt-of-the-earth-if-mildly-retarded state-worker pool forevermore.


Because Louisville is a vibrant, progressive city (not counting Dan Seum) in a dirt-poor, third-world state*, itís only natural that our tax dollars whisk to Frankfort each year, while only a small percentage hobble back in the form of evolution-agnostic textbooks and posh dormitories for college athletes.


Sure, itís awesome knowing our tax dollars are going to help coax the worms out of some Appalachian kidís toenails because his people canít provide shoes. Itís the same sort of glow that comes from writing a check to the Red Cross for Darfur. Call me a starry-eyed optimist, but I donít mind buying school lunches for children in Monkeyís Unibrow because I think itís important to give them something to look forward to besides listening to their daddysí Bocephus records while making out with their siblings.


But at some point, Kentucky has got to stop holding Louisville back. Itís fine for our country cousins to smoke their Luckies and shoot their tater cannons and snort their Oxy and recite the Ten Commandments off a tombstone in the town square while hating gays, but why do I have to pay the emergency-room tab with my tax money? Louisville wants to be a progressive city; Kentucky wants to be a regressive state. Why donít we both own up to it and part company amicably?


The refusal of the 2008 General Assembly to raise the cigarette tax was the last straw. The commonwealth is perpetually desperate for roads, education, healthcare and social services, while leading the nation in smoking and smoking-related illnesses. One in four pregnant women smoke.

Forty percent of our poorest citizens smoke. The state incurs $1.5 billion each year in smoking-related healthcare costs. By raising the cigarette tax, Kentucky couldíve generated desperately needed revenue while simultaneously improving health.


There is a classic ethical quiz put to philosophy students called The Cave Dilemma. The story goes like this: You and four others are exploring a cave when water begins to rise. The first person to flee the cave is a morbidly obese Kentuckian who gets stuck in the mouth of the cave, trapping everyone inside, where they will surely perish from the rising water and/or his Taco-Bell flatulence.

Being a Kentuckian yourself, you discover a stick of dynamite in your back pocket. Do you blast the corpulent bastard out of the cave, which would kill him and set the others free? Or do you leave him to survive and let the rest drown?


The Cave Dilemma presents ethics students with two bad options: Kill one person or let five die. When philosophers discuss the dilemma they say there are no wrong answers. But there is a wrong answer, and Kentucky senators found it. In refusing to raise the cigarette tax, the General Assembly chose to both kill the fat guy stuck in the cave and everyone inside. Is that the kind of state you want to live in?


Unfortunately, the system is stacked against us. Rural lawmakers ó both Republican and Demopublican ó donít just work against our cityís interests, they gleefully urinate in any Louisville-flavored Cheerios they can find, then celebrate on lobbyist money at Thunder and Derby parties. And they have us woefully outnumbered.


So itís time to secede. We could bolt for Indiana, but that wouldnít help: same hicks, different accent. Instead, imagine:
Louisville, the city-state.


OK, so modern city-states donít have a great track record. Vatican City and Singapore are living in the same century as rural Kentucky. And Washington, D.C. attracts miscreants like Karl Rove and Mitch McConnell.


But it could be a perfect solution for pulling Louisville into the future without dragging the bulky deadweight of Kentucky along. Imagine a Louisville without Kentucky. Weíd have the arts, the economic engine, the educated workforce and the talented homosexuals without all that pesky redneckery. And imagine a Kentucky without Louisville. They could handle their rattlesnakes and teach their little bullies creationism and root for their Wallcats on their topless mountains without having to fight off hippies and atheists.


See? Win-win. Maybe we could even swap Fairdale for Bernheim Forest Ö

* Not counting the equine, coal, tobacco, liquor, banking, energy, fast-food, automobile and marijuana millionaires.

Contact the writer at
jimwelp@gmail.com
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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Might I suggest he moves to San Fransisco... I hear they welcome morons with open arms.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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A few years ago, one of Louisville's leaders suggested that western Louisville should succeed from Louisville. Kinda like the little boy who came to supper late and then got so mad that he wouldn't eat because his family started without him. Who did it really hurt?
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:23 AM
 
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Might I suggest he moves to San Fransisco... I hear they welcome morons with open arms.
I love ya Davart!
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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This is likely a satire, but still it contains a loose sentiment some liberal Louisvillians feel. There is a disconnect between the state's largest city and her rural neighbors, bur is this kind of article necessary?

From Louisville's liberal alt weekly, Leo:

Home | LEO Weekly

Summary of My Discontent: A cry for secession
By Jim Welp

The time has come for Louisville to secede from Kentucky. The two have been at philosophical odds ever since our forefathers chose Frankfort as the state’s bucolic capital in 1792, ensuring a salt-of-the-earth-if-mildly-retarded state-worker pool forevermore.


Because Louisville is a vibrant, progressive city (not counting Dan Seum) in a dirt-poor, third-world state*, it’s only natural that our tax dollars whisk to Frankfort each year, while only a small percentage hobble back in the form of evolution-agnostic textbooks and posh dormitories for college athletes.


Sure, it’s awesome knowing our tax dollars are going to help coax the worms out of some Appalachian kid’s toenails because his people can’t provide shoes. It’s the same sort of glow that comes from writing a check to the Red Cross for Darfur. Call me a starry-eyed optimist, but I don’t mind buying school lunches for children in Monkey’s Unibrow because I think it’s important to give them something to look forward to besides listening to their daddys’ Bocephus records while making out with their siblings.


But at some point, Kentucky has got to stop holding Louisville back. It’s fine for our country cousins to smoke their Luckies and shoot their tater cannons and snort their Oxy and recite the Ten Commandments off a tombstone in the town square while hating gays, but why do I have to pay the emergency-room tab with my tax money? Louisville wants to be a progressive city; Kentucky wants to be a regressive state. Why don’t we both own up to it and part company amicably?


The refusal of the 2008 General Assembly to raise the cigarette tax was the last straw. The commonwealth is perpetually desperate for roads, education, healthcare and social services, while leading the nation in smoking and smoking-related illnesses. One in four pregnant women smoke.

Forty percent of our poorest citizens smoke. The state incurs $1.5 billion each year in smoking-related healthcare costs. By raising the cigarette tax, Kentucky could’ve generated desperately needed revenue while simultaneously improving health.


There is a classic ethical quiz put to philosophy students called The Cave Dilemma. The story goes like this: You and four others are exploring a cave when water begins to rise. The first person to flee the cave is a morbidly obese Kentuckian who gets stuck in the mouth of the cave, trapping everyone inside, where they will surely perish from the rising water and/or his Taco-Bell flatulence.

Being a Kentuckian yourself, you discover a stick of dynamite in your back pocket. Do you blast the corpulent bastard out of the cave, which would kill him and set the others free? Or do you leave him to survive and let the rest drown?


The Cave Dilemma presents ethics students with two bad options: Kill one person or let five die. When philosophers discuss the dilemma they say there are no wrong answers. But there is a wrong answer, and Kentucky senators found it. In refusing to raise the cigarette tax, the General Assembly chose to both kill the fat guy stuck in the cave and everyone inside. Is that the kind of state you want to live in?


Unfortunately, the system is stacked against us. Rural lawmakers — both Republican and Demopublican — don’t just work against our city’s interests, they gleefully urinate in any Louisville-flavored Cheerios they can find, then celebrate on lobbyist money at Thunder and Derby parties. And they have us woefully outnumbered.


So it’s time to secede. We could bolt for Indiana, but that wouldn’t help: same hicks, different accent. Instead, imagine:
Louisville, the city-state.


OK, so modern city-states don’t have a great track record. Vatican City and Singapore are living in the same century as rural Kentucky. And Washington, D.C. attracts miscreants like Karl Rove and Mitch McConnell.


But it could be a perfect solution for pulling Louisville into the future without dragging the bulky deadweight of Kentucky along. Imagine a Louisville without Kentucky. We’d have the arts, the economic engine, the educated workforce and the talented homosexuals without all that pesky redneckery. And imagine a Kentucky without Louisville. They could handle their rattlesnakes and teach their little bullies creationism and root for their Wallcats on their topless mountains without having to fight off hippies and atheists.


See? Win-win. Maybe we could even swap Fairdale for Bernheim Forest …

* Not counting the equine, coal, tobacco, liquor, banking, energy, fast-food, automobile and marijuana millionaires.

Contact the writer at
jimwelp@gmail.com
Like I have said before, anyone who doesn't like this state or anything else here can LEAVE. Stuff like this just makes me so mad I could spit. How about the liberals areas split off into their own little islands and leave the rest of us alone????? For the record, there are PLENTY of us Louisvillians who are creationists and hold strongly to our ten commandments. Fool.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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Might I suggest he moves to San Fransisco... I hear they welcome morons with open arms.
This all depends upon your definition of moron.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:52 AM
 
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Like I have said before, anyone who doesn't like this state or anything else here can LEAVE. Stuff like this just makes me so mad I could spit. How about the liberals areas split off into their own little islands and leave the rest of us alone????? For the record, there are PLENTY of us Louisvillians who are creationists and hold strongly to our ten commandments. Fool.
What is your definition of fool?
Relax, no need to get mad or to spit on others. Do you feel threatened by people that are not like you?
Could you recommend any methods to induce those you don't like to depart Kentucky?
How about placing large billboards at major Kentucky borders with the message:
The following types of people are not welcome in Kentucky...
what groups would you put on that list?
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:04 AM
 
Location: London, KY
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What is your definition of fool?
Relax, no need to get mad or to spit on others. Do you feel threatened by people that are not like you?
Could you recommend any methods to induce those you don't like to depart Kentucky?
How about placing large billboards at major Kentucky borders with the message:
The following types of people are not welcome in Kentucky...
what groups would you put on that list?
What do you know...a sermon by an all-loving and all-inclusive liberal.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:07 PM
 
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What do you know...a sermon by an all-loving and all-inclusive liberal.
Your point is........?
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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What is your definition of fool?
Relax, no need to get mad or to spit on others. Do you feel threatened by people that are not like you?
Could you recommend any methods to induce those you don't like to depart Kentucky?
How about placing large billboards at major Kentucky borders with the message:
The following types of people are not welcome in Kentucky...
what groups would you put on that list?
I am not the one who picked out an entire state to bash aside from just MY type of people. I am not the one who sat there and bashed an area (Fairdale). To answer you question, I would include people that that who are hateful, mean and want to whole dang state to change just for them THAT'S WHO.
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