Kentuckians have NO room to complain now (to buy, tax)

[JMT]

Originally Posted by tomocox

Kydad, what you and nearly every Obama voter failed to accept is that it is a co-operative effort between Wall Street and Main Street that makes our economy work. As in the cycle of life, it requires that all aspects must remain in balance. For example, rain falls from the sky, drains towards the seas, is evaporated into clouds that cover our lands and produce rain again. If this cycle gets out of balance, we get drought or floods. What is important is there is only a given amount of water on our Earth. No more, no less only more or less in a given place at a given time.

So, you see, those of you who voted for change for the sake of change likely have bought an empty box full of bull.

That is one of the best explanations I've seen in a long time. I can't give you more rep points until I spread the love around some more, but know that it's there.

Originally Posted by Digger57

That is the way economics work. I had to let some employees go in the past few days due to the direct result of the economic downturn and certain upcoming increased taxes. One of the hardest things I have ever done but trying to survive the business.
The one thing we don't need is increased taxes, entitlement subsidies, and more programs that stifle investment & economic growth.

Precisely. The class warfare being waged by Obama and people of his ilk is wreckless and stupid. The notion that only the "rich" are going to be soaked by Obama's tax increases is delusional. In addition, Obama has said he's in favor of letting the Bush tax cuts expire, meaning most of the rest of us are going to have a tax increase.

Besides, BUSINESSES DON'T PAY TAXES. They merely pass the cost on to the consumer. Or, if it's a commodity with price controls, they lay off employees. Either way, it's the "working man" who's going to suffer.

I also have to wonder: if the Bush years were so horrible to our economy, how did Obama get so rich while Bush was president? And why isn't he encouraging more people to do what he did to make so much money?

Originally Posted by Packersnut21

I would not say all are dumb but when a poll shows 15% did not vote for Obama because of his skin there the sign of Racist.

Surely you know as well as anyone else that a whole bunch of Obama's support came from people who voted for him strictly because of the color of his skin. Take the same pablum from Obama, stick it in a white guy's mouth and probably 40% of his support would evaporate.

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I have always said that Kentucky and Tennessee have a lot more similarities than differences, and the fact that both of our beautiful states voted for McCain is further proof of that. Don't get me wrong, I don't really like McCain, but I'm glad that a lot of people in our states apparently recognized a socialist when they saw one and voted for the lesser of two evils.

[missymomof3]

Originally Posted by JMT

That is one of the best explanations I've seen in a long time. I can't give you more rep points until I spread the love around some more, but know that it's there.



Precisely. The class warfare being waged by Obama and people of his ilk is wreckless and stupid. The notion that only the "rich" are going to be soaked by Obama's tax increases is delusional. In addition, Obama has said he's in favor of letting the Bush tax cuts expire, meaning most of the rest of us are going to have a tax increase.

Besides, BUSINESSES DON'T PAY TAXES. They merely pass the cost on to the consumer. Or, if it's a commodity with price controls, they lay off employees. Either way, it's the "working man" who's going to suffer.

I also have to wonder: if the Bush years were so horrible to our economy, how did Obama get so rich while Bush was president? And why isn't he encouraging more people to do what he did to make so much money?



Surely you know as well as anyone else that a whole bunch of Obama's support came from people who voted for him strictly because of the color of his skin. Take the same pablum from Obama, stick it in a white guy's mouth and probably 40% of his support would evaporate.

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I have always said that Kentucky and Tennessee have a lot more similarities than differences, and the fact that both of our beautiful states voted for McCain is further proof of that. Don't get me wrong, I don't really like McCain, but I'm glad that a lot of people in our states apparently recognized a socialist when they saw one and voted for the lesser of two evils.

Well said!

[kimmieyky]

JMT - you are so right. I think - 'lesser of two evils' was exactly what we had to work with during this election. In talking with friends and my grown children, it was more of 'pick the one to best get through the next four years and pray we have someone decent for the next go 'round'.

I am a conservative. The color of skin has nothing to do with my decisions. I, too, saw the socialism coming (how could you not?), yet did not like McCain, as I do not believe he truly supported my conservative views. It was agonizing.

I can only say I am thankful we do still have Mitch in D.C. "The most powerful Rebublican in the Senate", so says FOX news.


I'm with you Missy and JMT,tomocox and the others who so eloquently have shown our decision making process as Kentuckians. We have to stand for something, and when we do, we still stand as one.

I am truly glad, however, the commercials are over!!! But, now I am having Christmas shoved down my throat so early....I am not ready..it was 70 something yesterday.....more coffee please...

[blue_eyedgirl]

Originally Posted by tomocox

Only an uneducated uninformed person supported Obama.

I am an educated and very informed Kentucky native and I voted for Obama. I wouldn't make such big generalizations if I were you. Its time to put the pettiness behind us and move forward.

[Packersnut21]

Originally Posted by JMT

Surely you know as well as anyone else that a whole bunch of Obama's support came from people who voted for him strictly because of the color of his skin. Take the same pablum from Obama, stick it in a white guy's mouth and probably 40% of his support would evaporate.

I would say that while you can call it racism to vote for Obama because he is black. However,I see that as a sense of pride for ones heritage more than racism. I think those that voted against McCain did so because of a hatred for another class of human beings.

[tomocox]

Originally Posted by blue_eyedgirl

I am an educated and very informed Kentucky native and I voted for Obama. I wouldn't make such big generalizations if I were you. Its time to put the pettiness behind us and move forward.

Madam, I am by no means being a petty-pooh. Had you interviewed Mr. Obama, Ms. Clinton, Mr. McCain, Ms. Palin, Mr. Paul, even Mr. Nader to run your business, I am certain that based solely upon management and political experience and capability, you would have put Mr. Obama at the end of your list.

You will note that I did not include Mr Biden in that list as Mr. Biden was rejected by his own party resoundedly in two separate campaigns as he tried to be president on his own accord.

[Pilot1]

Originally Posted by southernnaturelover

Thank you Kentucky for keeping Mitch McConnell in the Senate and not giving Obama a blank check.

X2. Keeping leadership in KY!

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by bw87a

...although it's scary, and kentucky tends to be wary of change, people must embrace change and 'take that chance' that something better can come along. what's the worst that could happen?...

Communism.

[tomocox]

I agree with Avengerfire, but to go a bit farther so those who live in LaLa Land can understand why Avengerfire said Communism. I will ask readers to consider and share what the difference is in the basic philosophies of "spreading the wealth" and Communism? Need I remind you that the Pilgrims, the Harmonists (New Harmony Indiana), the USSR, China, and all Marxist modeled Utopian governments have all failed. We can even look at the feudal systems of Europe in the Middle Ages to see how terribly a bumble bee can't fly. In case you haven't heard, according to aeronautical engineers, a bumble bee's wings are too small to lift such a disproportionally large body.

We can even look to the history of the Shakers in Kentucky and how those societies (there were two) failed as well even though there were other serious problems such as no procreation.

[Packersnut21]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Communism.

Because of Wealth Distribution?

Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan, were also supporters of what McCain decries as "income redistribution."

Gergen suggested that the Democrats should invoke the example of Teddy Roosevelt, who was both a Republican and one of the greatest advocates of progressive taxation in the years immediately preceding the enactment of the current income tax.

Gergen also noted that the Reagan administration was responsible for enacting the Earned Income Tax Credit, an extremely successful redistribution program which returns money to the working poor.