Smoking...is it still allowed in public in KY? (Pikeville: homes, casino)
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Originally Posted by NatashaQuick I don't believe the propaganda. not everyone who smokes will die from emphysema or cancer. everyone's bodies and circumstances are different, and it's not arsenic. "
Interesting thoughts! I just wanted to point out that arsenic IS actually one of the dangerous products that is contained and released from cigarettes:
"Few indoor sources of arsenic other than tobacco smoke have been identified. The arsenic content of mainstream cigarette smoke ranges from 40 to 120 nanograms of arsenic per cigarette." (U.S. DHHS)
---Yea and 7-10 bitter almonds can kill you, from cyanide poisoning. As well as too many cherries, apples, plums, apricots, peaches and crabapples.(whomever would eat a crabapple, I dunno).
Just noticing the irony......that healthy foods are KILLERS! AHHH! It's an apple tree, run for your lives! =)
I dont smoke, cant say it really bothers me when others do but what kills me is them women wearing that Walmart perfume. I can get on an elevator with one of them and end up at the Doctor,s office. But...... I dont say anything to them any more than I would do to a smoker but Lady,s leave your perfume in the bedroom....... please
I think I visited the same flea market last weekend mentioned by Sundance earlier in this thread. What Sundance didn't mention though is the fact that on the door as you enter the place there is a large "No Smoking" sign. While I didn't see any of the shoppers smoking, at least a quarter of the vendors were sitting in their booths puffing away. Consequently the whole joint reeks of cigarettes. I guess the no smoking rule doesn't apply to the sellers...interesting interpretation. Oh well, like it or lump it as many of the smokers say....we won't go back.
Same thing with several of the restaurants in and around Murray that don't even provide a nonsmoking section! Unfortunately you sometimes don't figure it out until you've already been seated. I recently had the experience of an entire table of 4 next to mine each pausing to enjoy a cigarette right in the middle of eating their respective meals. That was a first.
I lived in Florida during the time the statewide smoking ban was imposed and despite the hew and cry that many restaurants would be put out of business, in virtually every case business actually increased. Cigarette smoke and the enjoyment of eating good food just don't mix. Bars are another matter.
I am from (Chicago) Illinois where a statewide smoking ban just took effect. From what I can see, walking down the street on a Friday night, and looking into bars,business is down big-time. Bars where there used to be people waiting in line to get into-even on a 10 degree Friday night were only half full. Other bars only had 25%-33% of the tables and seats at the bar filled.
I as a smoker have no problem if there is no smoking in most buildings, but bars? Bars are the last refuge of the working man-the working FREE MAN. I have always said there should be non-smoking and smoking bars. Is that not a good comprimise? The excuse in Illinois is "we need to protect the health of the people that work in bars". That is bull crap.Dont let them pull that on you down there. Most people that work in bars smoke (at least up here) and from what I have seen when I lived in KY, it is true also.
Compromise is not in the anti-smoking freaks agenda. Be careful who you get into debates on here with and who you give information to. I have seen similar threads started in different states on here where people are like : "I am not taking sides but what do you think about smoking? Where can you smoke and where can you not smoke?." What is really interesting is they never say if they are a smoker or non-smoker and they are almost always do not live in state or area they are asking about. They come to get info so they can send lobbyists out to your area and find supporters they can brainwash.
The American Lung Association is trying to pick off states one by one and ban smoking in just about every situation. The brainwashed anti-smoking nuts in Chicago are even complaining about people smoking while walking down the street because of the ALA bull crap. What about all the pollution from cars? Some people truly are ignorant.
It is getting so bad here, the Park District in Chicago banned smoking on beaches and in PARKS! I hope all of you in KY can reach a compromise and stand up for places for smokers before the ALA buys off all of your politicians. Be respectful smokers. Only smoke in bars,your house,your car,outside,keep the smoke away from your and everyone elses children,etc...
Dont ever let them take all your bars from you however. Show these people you care about others, but you want your right to smoke in bars. Suggest they can make half the bars smoking and the others not if it comes down to it.
For the record, I have lived in Eastern K.Y. and in London. I am a native Chicagoan. If you might be wondering why I am here,I check the KY section every so often to see what is going on.
I am a non-smoker, so I am biased (heavily) towards the smoking ban. With that said, I do believe that bars should be able to allow smoking, along with pool hall's, bingo hall's and the such. These places are non-family-friendly and should be treated as such. Restaurants, however, should always be smoke-free. I couldn't care less if you want to tar up your lungs, but don't ruin my meal and ruin the health of the poor waitress or waiter who is there to make a buck. Now before I get blasted by the smoking group, I ask you this; If you think your freedom of smoking has been taken away, do you think we should install spittoons once again in all public places? I mean, no one has died from second hand chew. It's not illegal to clip your toenails at a restaurant table, so why not take off your shoes and socks and have at it? You wouldn't want someone at the table next to you spitting their 'bacco juice everywhere and you wouldn't want someone clipping their nails at the table, now would you. Just like us non-smokers don't want foul air blowing into our personal space. How about sucking it up (pun intended) and try and go 45 minutes without a smoke.
This smoking thing, in my opinion, is one of the biggest drawbacks to Kentucky. Where else can you not locally buy a bottle of red wine (that has many proven health benefits) yet find deadly cigarettes being celebrated as part of the American way? It makes no sense. When I was a smoker, I generally didn't light up indoors, and especially not in restaurants. I can't imagine trying to shop in a flea market where you're having to hold your breath to keep from taking in all the smoke. Plus the odor and the tar gets into all the merchandise. That's just a really bad business decision not to mention a public health nuisance. Kentucky ranks number one in the nation for smokers per capita so don't expect the problem to go away any time soon. As a lot of the smokers say, if you don't like it, you can move.
This is the one big reason we want to move to KY. no alcohol and we can still go to a restaurant and smoke. Smoke but don't drink. Yes I smoke in the car with my grandchildren as I did with my children. My children are very healthy themselves so that puts to rest they are destroyed by second hand smoke.
Smoking Is A Lethal Weapon That Always Kills And It Is Insanity To Keep It Legal, It Kills Slowly But It Always Kills! Ban It Entirely! Make It Illeagal To Buy Or Sell It!
It has be shown that typing every word with first letter Caps, causes brain cancer.
As for smoking, yes most of Kentucky still has this neat thing called freedom. If you don't like smoking and a place allows smoking, you have the freedom not to go there. Just like people have the right to smoke, while others have the right to b! tch.
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