Northern Kentucky breaking off from Cincinnati...Finally!

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Originally Posted by RuralGuy

I’ve lived in this area for nearly 30 years, and this is the attitude I’ve seen from the majority of Ohioans I’ve met (particularly Cincinnati natives). If it weren’t for the airport being over here, they’d probably never cross the river. Oh sure, a few adventurous souls might penetrate as far as some of the dining or entertainment venues in Newport or Covington, where a short dash over the river is all it takes to have them safely back in the Buckeye State. But for many more, there’s some sort of redneck stigma or something that they associate with Kentucky that makes a trip over the river unappealing.

Because there is practically nothing that is in northern Kentucky that you can't get in Cincinnati. The Newport Levee? ha ha. if that is what passes for high quality entertainment, good luck. Other than the Aquarium and maybe Hofbrauhaus, why would you come to Northern KY if you live and work in Cincinnati?

keep making yourself feel better by thinking it's because of the prejudice of Cincinnatians and their fear of rednecks. But quite frankly, northern KY is nothing special and there is no reason to cross the river.

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Originally Posted by Beavercreek33

First off, you have had a problem with Ohio from the get go, as well as any other state you feel just doesn't fit your bill. Second off, I said I didn't feel like listening to peoples' ignorance, and thats that. I had a rough day at the office yesterday. Nothing more was meant by it. So don't tell me to not call "our" people. Sorry not going to happen with me... I did nothing, you just feel like putting me down because I hold a much different opinion than you.


Also, Warren and Butler counties are the fastest growing regions in the Cincinnati area. Not NKY. NKY is growing well, but not like Warren County. Also, Cincinnati proper is growing. Last I checked, Louisville proper was not. Cincinnati's metro area is growing just as fast as Louisville. Sorry if I am a few hundredths of a percent off.

If you go back and read my post, Ohio does have a diverse economy. And for the past several months KY's unemployment rate has been higher than Ohio's. Something is happening down in KY.

Ohio is home to several fortune 500 companies. Over 63 compared to KY's 9. That has helped the economy out immensly. Cincinnati and Cleveland have very diverse economies. Cleveland went from a steel making city, to a city on the forefront of the medical field. Home to the world class Cleveland Clinic, and go to Uptown and see all the construction cranes everywhere. Cleveland also has seen its tech center grow by over 26% in the last year.Cleveland and Cincinnati also have lower unemployment rates than Louisville.

Its only a matter of time eh? Kentucky needs to bring in more jobs and diversify more. I know about the out migration, I do not need a lesson on that. But the truth is, Ohio has not see a population decline in any recent census or since the turn of the 21st century.

Once again I will say this. Back in the 80s Ohio realized it needed to change its economy, and it did so by bringing in many new and diverse jobs. And all these new sectors have very promising futures. The wind energy is coming to Toledo, and looks to boom. There are 3 companies already starting up in Toledo.

I know many people from Kentucky that live in Columbus, and many from eastern Kentucky settling in the Mason, Lebanon and the West Chester areas north of Cincinnati.

Michigan is a story that is truly sad. They have no diversification at all. The American car business did good in the 70s and 80s when Ohio and Pennsylvania said good-bye to steel. Now Ohio and Pennsylvania have boosted money towards diversification, top notch university systems, and urban development. Pittsburgh and Cleveland, once smoky steel towns have recently been voted most livable in the U.S. Cleveland was 26th on a world scale.

Michigan is now saying good-bye to American cars, and has had everything from huge factories, to the little guys in Kalamazoo that made glass windows for the cars, go away. Even their tech field which was highly advanced, was revolved around the auto industry. I have watched even more cars traveling down I-75 south from Michigan than ever before, the only differance is, they are staying this time, looking for a job or house. Cincinnati/Dayton has a diverse economy that they could look for a new job, and we are a much more livable area.

I am not bashing Kentucky in anyway. I have a lot of great friends in Louisville, Lexington and Bowling Green. But Kentucky is no shining star either. I am just happy neither state is in some other state's positions, even states down south. If you want to boom like them, go ahead. I will take small growth so we do not see a boom/bust period like they all are. Charlotte is a mess with the banking industry. Cleveland is a huge banking center as well, but luckily the medical field is there to help them out.

Cincinnati and Cleveland both have amazing architecture, history, and their futures look great. Both cities have many great projects underway that will lead them into the future. Cleveland is currently picking a site for its new convention center/medical mart. One of the few in the nation with a medical mart. I heard the lakefront on the mall was chosen for its location.

But please, do not sugar-coat Kentucky and make Ohio look bad. Ohio is a great state, and so is Kentucky. But I will not bash Kentucky, or any other state for that matter to make Ohio look good.

Sorry if I seem uptight with you, its just the way you responded to my post.

Wrong...please do not come onto a forum and call people ignorant. There is no excuse for that word choice. And yes, I am the moderator so you are a "guest" in my cyber world. Would you come into my house and call my family ignorant? It really is a similar principle. Just because I point out facts about the population losses and economy of Ohio, doesn't mean I hate the state or mean ill will towards it. Really, you need to calm down.

Also, your facts are off. Louisville proper is growing just fine, and its MSA still grows faster than anywhere in Ohio besides Columbus, which is the shining star city of Ohio IMO.


Kentucky Economy at a Glance

KY

(5) 6.9 (5) 7.2 (5) 7.6 8.8 9.3 (P) 9.8


OH
(5) 6.9 (5) 7.1 (5) 7.4 8.8 9.5 (P) 9.7

Above are unemployment rates for the two states from October 2008-March 2009 from the only OFFICIAL source of these kinds of stats. Looks almost identical to me, so I am not sure what you are arguing?

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This whole debate really is nonsense. Cincy and NKY are very co-dependent, although NKY is doing more and more of its own thing as it grows bigger. NKY would not have grown into what it is today if not for Cincy. There might be a small Southern overtone once you get south of I-275, but until I get south of the I-75/71 split or Alexandria (on US 27) I don't feel like I'm truly in Kentucky.

NKY, as much as I like you (which is a lot), try to keep things in perspective.