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Old 06-21-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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I have heard a lot about upper midwest and lower midwest, Can someone tell the difference between them and similarity between them.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:49 PM
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Upper Midwest = Great Lakes (lots of Polish, Italians, Scandinavians)

Lower Midwest = along Ohio River, Mid Mississippi River (mostly German, Irish), more Southern influenced architecture (shotgun houses, etc)

Personally I'd say St Louis, Louisville, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, & Columbus are Lower Midwest. Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, & Buffalo are Upper Midwest
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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How can Buffalo be midwestern anything? It's in New York!

Honestly, I think even Ohio is too far east to be called midwest.

Other than that, I mostly agree with censusdata's observations though. I think the patterns of immigration make a LOT of the difference.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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Oh God are we going to start debating where Louisville belongs again? It is in the South.
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Old 06-22-2009, 05:43 AM
 
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How can Buffalo be midwestern anything? It's in New York!

Honestly, I think even Ohio is too far east to be called midwest.

Other than that, I mostly agree with censusdata's observations though. I think the patterns of immigration make a LOT of the difference.
You consider Ohio NE? Ohio screams midwest to me. Buffalo has a lot of midwestern qualities. It has a lot more in common with Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee than with NYC or Boston. The Great Lakes, a post industrial economy that is hurting, a lot of German and Polish influences... You get 10 miles outside of Buffalo and it is corn fields and dairy farms as far as you can see.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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Oh God are we going to start debating where Louisville belongs again? It is in the South.
Amen!
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Maybe this should be in the General US forum, you'd get more answers there.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:37 AM
 
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Upper Midwest = Great Lakes (lots of Polish, Italians, Scandinavians)

Lower Midwest = along Ohio River, Mid Mississippi River (mostly German, Irish), more Southern influenced architecture (shotgun houses, etc)

Personally I'd say St Louis, Louisville, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, & Columbus are Lower Midwest. Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, & Buffalo are Upper Midwest
Take Louisville AND Buffalo off this list.
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:46 AM
 
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I would leave Buffalo on the list as it seems very similiar economically and culturally to cities like Cleveland, Toledo, and Detroit. I would take Louisville off the list as it seems more similar to places like Nashville than it does to any other cities on the list of "midwestern" cities.
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Old 06-22-2009, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Cleveland shouldn't really be on the list either, it felt more New Englandish when I lived there, rather than Midwestern.
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