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Old 02-02-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Your Mom's House
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Congratulations! For a state that usually scores in the lower 10% of non-important issues (to Kintuckians) like education and medical, it's good to know you have something to be prowd of. We all know that winning basketball championships is very beneficial to everyone. Congratulations!
Also, Kintucky leads the nation in children's deaths from abuse. Also cancer deaths! Congratulations!
Nr 1!
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Not really.
I think there are more important things in life than basketball, but I didn't grow up in Kentucky.
I think this is what upsets me the most about people's overall attitudes in the central & more so in the eastern part of the state. The poverty, drug abuse & health issue numbers are off the freakin charts. They're bad, really bad. I think the only states that are worse are West Virginia & Mississippi, which are indeed the armpits of the country.

But yet in KY in these areas, you never hear anyone talking about it or even remotely trying to make it better. And in fact, even mention it & you'll likely catch the wrath of some rednecks who think you're "talkin bad" about their state/area. Remember the backlash from that Diane Sawyer ABC special? Exactly. Oh, but let's worry about how them Cats are doing! Cause that's important. Everyone wants to moan & complain about the government or whatnot (even though most of them claim to be "Conservatives" & are against the Gov, yet its how many survive) waiting for their handouts, but then wont do anything to better their situation & not even talk about it. Its a god damn joke.

Yeah, I know, how dare I, right? And just like in reality, I'm sure the typical cheerleaders here (you know who you are) instead of agreeing with me or at least taking some responsibility or admitting to it, will probably lash out at my post because I'm "disrespecting" the area. But screw that. You guys all know its true whether you will admit it or not. But go right ahead & keep doing what you're doing, defend it to the death while you do nothing to better the situation. That seems to be working out just lovely for you guys.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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I think this is what upsets me the most about people's overall attitudes in the central & more so in the eastern part of the state. The poverty, drug abuse & health issue numbers are off the freakin charts. They're bad, really bad. I think the only states that are worse are West Virginia & Mississippi, which are indeed the armpits of the country.

But yet in KY in these areas, you never hear anyone talking about it or even remotely trying to make it better. And in fact, even mention it & you'll likely catch the wrath of some rednecks who think you're "talkin bad" about their state/area. Remember the backlash from that Diane Sawyer ABC special? Exactly. Oh, but let's worry about how them Cats are doing! Cause that's important. Everyone wants to moan & complain about the government or whatnot (even though most of them claim to be "Conservatives" & are against the Gov, yet its how many survive) waiting for their handouts, but then wont do anything to better their situation & not even talk about it. Its a god damn joke.

Yeah, I know, how dare I, right? And just like in reality, I'm sure the typical cheerleaders here (you know who you are) instead of agreeing with me or at least taking some responsibility or admitting to it, will probably lash out at my post because I'm "disrespecting" the area. But screw that. You guys all know its true whether you will admit it or not. But go right ahead & keep doing what you're doing, defend it to the death while you do nothing to better the situation. That seems to be working out just lovely for you guys.

And once again, not playing basketball well would get rid of poverty, child abuse and health issues...how? That whole argument makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Your Mom's House
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And once again, not playing basketball well would get rid of poverty, child abuse and health issues...how? That whole argument makes no sense whatsoever.
Thats not the argument. Its getting priorities straight. I'm not saying no one should be allowed to enjoy anything ever until world peace breaks out & all is right with the world, but if Kentuckians in these areas just put half the effort into such things as much as they do the Cats, it would be a better place to live. But as it stands, they don't even acknowledge it & dare anybody else to. It's pitifully backwards.

The moral of the story is, you got much MUCH bigger fish to fry. Celebrate for something worthwhile, like when you're not leading the country in all these horrible statistics, you know, stuff that actually matters to people's well being & lives. But no, to hell with that, let's jump up & down when the Cats win some random game that means jack squat in reality. Cause thats all that matters, eh.

I know the Cats fan's heads are about to explode, cause they can't comprehend why a basketball game being played by a bunch of college students doesn't actually mean anything to them personally, so I'll just stop.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:32 AM
 
Location: London, KY
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For the first time in the three or so years that I've been on CD, I have to agree with some points of Visvaldis,IrishTom and Kerry. First off, I like college basketball, I'll spend a few hours each week keeping up and watching various games. And,having followed UK/UofL since the 1970's, I've forgotten more stuff about both schools than most people know. That said, it seems that our priorities our waaaay out of line. I find it near disgusting that folks seem content with living on the government dole, not concerned with doing things themselves, yet they make it a POINT to watch the Cats play. How about getting a job, or getting enrolled at the local community college? I've run into people that seem the least interested in working but they sure can find a way to get tickets to Rupp Arena. And before anyone flames me, go ahead, but understand that I live right in the middle of it (london,Ky) and see this type of attitude often.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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And once again, not playing basketball well would get rid of poverty, child abuse and health issues...how? That whole argument makes no sense whatsoever.
No, be a good Kentuckian, just pretend those problems don't exist. Concentrate on Go Big Blue instead.
Who said you shouldn't play basketball? Where did that idea come from?
Priorities!
There have been several threads and many posts on this. Do Kentuckians have such a hard time being able to grasp that problems in the state maybe deserve a little bit of attention? Is 'Go Cats' the only thing that Kentuckians understand?
Ignoring problems (such as poverty, child abuse and health issues) certainly doesn't help. Of 50 states Kentucky ranks 49 with people that have a high school diploma. Only Mississippi ranks lower. Apparently, Kentuckians think that's okay; at least we're not dead last.
Do Kentuckians accept poverty, child abuse, lack of education and health issues as normal? If so, then Kentuckians shouldn't be surprised that Kentucky has such a backwards reputation.
It's a stubborn attitude.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Your Mom's House
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I truly don't think its because they don't care, but that they just accept that "thats the way it is". I mean, anyone would obviously care when their relatives & friends die younger than they probably should have, or that they've witnessed some abuse somewhere along the line, or that someone they care for is strung out on drugs. I saw quite a bit of all this stuff growing up here & just didnt know any better really, assuming it was normal. It wasnt until really getting out for a while & looking back on it like "man, that was kinda messed up." I mean, I could've educated myself more about these things while I was there, but I just didn't.

So I dunno how you fix that. No one's gonna solve it for them, so I think its just gonna take the people's attitudes changing & the majority of them wanting to get involved with really trying to make a difference. Like I said, worry about them Cats later. They'll still be there I promise. You're pretty much at DEFCON 1 right now, so grow up a bit, hunker down & handle your business. Especially if you all claim to have such pride for your state/region. Well act like it then.

I hope that happens cause its desperately needed. But most seem pretty content with the way things are, so who knows.
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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I hardly think a healthy support of ones favorite college basketball team is the reason for the bad health/education stats in Kentucky. Eastern Kentucky especially. I would think coal dust,contaminated ground water,uneducated parents who are unable to pass on solid advice and just plain stubborness, which is prevalent in the hills, are just as much to blame as is watching basketball too much. And I do think this is changing. As I said in a previous post, I have spent ALOT of time in eastern Kentucky. Just walking to the fishing supplies section of any Hazard,Pikeville or Harlan Walmart one can see many young,healthy looking people. Healthier looking than thier parents generation. And in my opinion, Kentucky women are among the most beautiful in America. And you dont get that good looking without doing SOMETHING right healthwise!
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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No, be a good Kentuckian, just pretend those problems don't exist. Concentrate on Go Big Blue instead.
Who said you shouldn't play basketball? Where did that idea come from?
Priorities!
There have been several threads and many posts on this. Do Kentuckians have such a hard time being able to grasp that problems in the state maybe deserve a little bit of attention? Is 'Go Cats' the only thing that Kentuckians understand?
Ignoring problems (such as poverty, child abuse and health issues) certainly doesn't help. Of 50 states Kentucky ranks 49 with people that have a high school diploma. Only Mississippi ranks lower. Apparently, Kentuckians think that's okay; at least we're not dead last.
Do Kentuckians accept poverty, child abuse, lack of education and health issues as normal? If so, then Kentuckians shouldn't be surprised that Kentucky has such a backwards reputation.
It's a stubborn attitude.

-----Of 50 states Kentucky ranks 49 with people that have a high school diploma. Only Mississippi ranks lower.----

And yet some Kentuckians feel casino gambling will solve the problems.

It sure didn't for the only state ranked lower ( Mississippi )
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:55 PM
 
Location: During school I live on campus at MSU but was born and raised in Louisville, Ky.
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-----Of 50 states Kentucky ranks 49 with people that have a high school diploma. Only Mississippi ranks lower.----

And yet some Kentuckians feel casino gambling will solve the problems.

It sure didn't for the only state ranked lower ( Mississippi )

http://www.kltprc.net/policynotes/pn...tion_index.pdf

Kentucky has an 85% rate of high school graduates. The number one state has 96%..thats only an 11% percent difference, and what does going to high school have to do with loving your' favorite college team? I love Kentucky basketball and I will untill the day I die but I am also in college at Murray State...and the casino bit is a joke, how does that issue even come up in this forum lol I guess Nevada must be full of uneducated bigots because they love their casinos. What about New Jersey would you consider them uneducated because of Atlantic City?
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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http://www.kltprc.net/policynotes/pn...tion_index.pdf

Kentucky has an 85% rate of high school graduates. The number one state has 96%..thats only an 11% percent difference, and what does going to high school have to do with loving your' favorite college team? I love Kentucky basketball and I will untill the day I die but I am also in college at Murray State...and the casino bit is a joke, how does that issue even come up in this forum lol I guess Nevada must be full of uneducated bigots because they love their casinos. What about New Jersey would you consider them uneducated because of Atlantic City?
---" Kentucky has an 85% rate of high school graduates. "----

Really ?

That's strange because city-data lists only 1 major university town that even hits 85%.

Here is the breakdown----Lexington-----85.8 %
-------------------------Murray--------81%
-------------------------Bowling Green-77.9%
------------------------Richmond------76.9%
------------------------Louiusville------76.1%

I doubt SE KY has such an outstanding graduation rate that it raises the state's rate to 85% .
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