01-15-2019, 06:30 AM
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I'm in Greeneville, where Publix competes with three Food City locations, two Ingles locations, Walmart, Aldi, and a handful of bargain basement grocers (think Save-a-Lot).
It's not even close. My hierarchy is as follows:
Publix
Aldi
Walmart
Ingles
Shopping outside of Greeneville
Going hungry
Food City
Also, let me add that the notion of Food City being cheaper than its competition is bunk. I hear that repeated over and over by locals, and it never fails to give me heartburn.
Edited to add: of course prices are higher in the PF/Sevierville/Gatlinburg tourist mecca. Like you, my wife nearly had a coronary when we stopped in the Food City on 321 in Gatlinburg for snacks.
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01-15-2019, 07:38 AM
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You can't just compare top-line prices at Food City vs. Publix.
Keep in mind that virtually everyone at Kroger or Food City has a discount card. That brings their prices down a bit, but they make much higher margins off the folks that do not have cards.
At least at Kroger, you can type in your phone # for your discount card at the register and the gas pump. You can get Food City to accept a phone number, but have to ask, and no way to do so at the pump.
What I do when comparing grocery prices is I'll take a set of commonly purchased items. For me, I'll take prices on a pound of gala apples, pound of bananas, bag of Tyson Frozen chicken, 6 oz. berries, some other things, and compare them between stores. You can do this over several weeks or sub out items that are on sale
When I've done this, Food City and Ingles have always been the most expensive, followed by Publix in Greeneville/Turkey Creek, with Kroger always being the cheapest among mainline grocers. If I can find it at Walmart and it's a generic type of item, they're almost always cheapest.
Food City is notably more expensive on several items in my regular shopping pattern than any other store in the area, and quality is generally lower.
01-15-2019, 08:02 AM
Location: RDU
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You can't just compare top-line prices at Food City vs. Publix.
Keep in mind that virtually everyone at Kroger or Food City has a discount card. That brings their prices down a bit, but they make much higher margins off the folks that do not have cards.
At least at Kroger, you can type in your phone # for your discount card at the register and the gas pump. You can get Food City to accept a phone number, but have to ask, and no way to do so at the pump.
What I do when comparing grocery prices is I'll take a set of commonly purchased items. For me, I'll take prices on a pound of gala apples, pound of bananas, bag of Tyson Frozen chicken, 6 oz. berries, some other things, and compare them between stores. You can do this over several weeks or sub out items that are on sale
When I've done this, Food City and Ingles have always been the most expensive, followed by Publix in Greeneville/Turkey Creek, with Kroger always being the cheapest among mainline grocers. If I can find it at Walmart and it's a generic type of item, they're almost always cheapest.
Food City is notably more expensive on several items in my regular shopping pattern than any other store in the area, and quality is generally lower.
Spot on. Glad to know others agree that Food City's price and quality leave something to be desired.
Family in Erwin are loyal Food Lion shoppers and dread the day Food City opens. No doubt it kills off Food Lion, leaving the town with Walmart, Food City, and PriceLe$$. No thanks.
01-15-2019, 11:07 AM
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I'm really hoping for a Publix in Kingsport just because well Kingsport doesn't have a grocery store with a good deli. Aldi doesn't have a deli, Kroger's is meh. Walmart Neighborhood Market is at least decent but nothing to rave about, Ingles is fairly good actually but it's far for me. Food City's Deli is terrible and often their food has an odd taste and texture to it. I think it's because much of their deli items are made with Food Club/Valuetime branded items and that store brand is just terrible.
01-15-2019, 11:52 AM
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Spot on. Glad to know others agree that Food City's price and quality leave something to be desired.
Family in Erwin are loyal Food Lion shoppers and dread the day Food City opens. No doubt it kills off Food Lion, leaving the town with Walmart, Food City, and PriceLe$$. No thanks.
I used to live in other areas and grocery prices/selection has been one of my biggest complaints coming back. Food City is just far inferior to any mainline grocery anywhere else I've lived.
Ingles has better selection and is a little more upmarket than Food City, but they're still a bit pricey and out of the way. Kroger is the best, but the Kingsport and North JC Krogers are just plain awful. The south JC one is passable, and the Bristol, VA store is pretty good.
I do probably 60% of my shopping between Walmart, Sam's, and the Asheville Whole Foods. Kroger is the other 30%. Sometimes I have to stop at Food City. Publix would probably get most of my non Walmart business.
01-15-2019, 12:34 PM
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In my area, we have Aldis, Kroger, Publix, and Walmart --- all within a few blocks of each other.
We had already started spending more grocery money at Kroger than WalMart because I am sick to death of Walmart's discontinue attitude. Discontinuing the brand of "live active culture" yogurt that I like was the last straw.
K-Mart completely folded -- all we have left for a department type store is Walmart, so they have us on that one.
DH will stop at Aldis on his way home from work, if he needs something because he doesn't have to cross lanes. He won't shop at Publix because he thinks it's too expensive.
I, on the other hand, don't think Publix is too expensive if I watch what I buy. I love our new Publix. If I can get myself past the bakery and the deli, Publix has unique food offerings the other grocers don't and the prices are not that bad for those unique food products.
I still haven't gone into Publix on a full scale shopping trip, to compare prices on things we buy all the time, so I haven't seen the entire store. -- to repeat myself, I spend waaaay too much time at the bakery and deli sections
01-15-2019, 09:52 PM
Location: South Carolina
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Spot on. Glad to know others agree that Food City's price and quality leave something to be desired.
Family in Erwin are loyal Food Lion shoppers and dread the day Food City opens. No doubt it kills off Food Lion, leaving the town with Walmart, Food City, and PriceLe$$. No thanks.
Food City should provide an easier, fresher, and more affordable shopping experience than Food Lion.
I would not mind seeing an Ingle's in Erwin. I do not know if Erwin is ready for 72,000-square-foot supermarkets.
01-15-2019, 10:11 PM
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Food City should provide an easier, fresher, and more affordable shopping experience than Food Lion.
I would not mind seeing an Ingle's in Erwin. I do not know if Erwin is ready for 72,000-square-foot supermarkets.
Doesn't work that way.
I used to work in Lebanon, VA. That was a very rural town in VA not a half hour from FC's HQ. That FC had scraps in terms of freshness and such.
FC will not put any effort into upmarket products (read: fresh produce and veggies) in a town like Erwin. The margins are just too low at a store like that.
01-15-2019, 10:53 PM
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Food City and Food Lion disagree with you.
Food Lion is consistent in extra high prices and not having necessities. It is funny to see people waste time and money at Food Lion.
If Food City and Ingle's have intelligence, they would expand Super Dollar and Sav-Mor into Erwin.
01-16-2019, 07:10 AM
Location: RDU
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Food City should provide an easier, fresher, and more affordable shopping experience than Food Lion.
I would not mind seeing an Ingle's in Erwin. I do not know if Erwin is ready for 72,000-square-foot supermarkets.
Listen, I get that it's easy to dump on Food Lion given its struggles over the past decade (which can be directly traced to Delhaize's mismanagement and incompetence), but the notion that Food Lion is more expensive than Food City is, once again, bunk. Perhaps in other markets that is true, but Food Lion's few remaining East TN stores are priced quite competitively.
As for freshness, I'm chuckling at the notion of Food City being fresher than any grocer outside of the bargain basement group.
Regarding Ingle's, the site on which Food City ultimately selected to build was considered by Ingle's several years prior. My understanding is that the corporation was well aware Erwin could not support the typical mammoth footprint of an Ingle's, but they were initially interested in testing a "scaled-down" footprint. Plans obviously fell through.
Reckless speculation alert: rumor is Food City reps were involved in some back room dealings with the seller to deter Ingle's. (But, that's likely just small town scuttlebutt.)
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)