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Old 11-06-2009, 08:50 PM
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Sorry about the inference...I'm looking to move to southern Carter County or Johnson
County and based on discussions [mod] cut [/mod], there seems to be some issues with
burglaries and drugs in those areas. My apologies to the greater Tri-Cities area.
There had recently been much community concern about a "rash" of burglary in Johnson County. More recently two gentlemen were caught "red handed" in process of a burglary there. It will be interesting to see if the "rash" of burglary now abates. The discussions I have read on another community forum suggest that meth addiction may have been a factor but that is far from certain.

Meth seems to be a problem generally throughout the southern Appalachian region and I doubt that Johnson and Carter counties are significantly worse than anywhere else. It may be that there isn't much else to make the news there. It's actually a rather peaceful place.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:58 AM
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Thanks to all for your input...looking forward to house hunting this spring.
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:44 AM
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Heres a couple links that'll help answer the OP's question.May not be exactly the same as FL, but closer 'nuff.


http://state.tn.us/sos/acts/105/pub/pc0210.pdf


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After researching the issue on the internet, here is my advice.

While Tennessee has a Castle Doctrine and a "Stand Your Ground" element in the law, the implementation is different than in Florida. Research to find the differences.

If you will be living in Tennessee anyway, sign up for a carry permit course and ask the instructor relevant questions.

As it happens so much in life, the devil is in the details.
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After researching the issue on the internet, here is my advice.

While Tennessee has a Castle Doctrine and a "Stand Your Ground" element in the law, the implementation is different than in Florida. Research to find the differences.

If you will be living in Tennessee anyway, sign up for a carry permit course and ask the instructor relevant questions.

As it happens so much in life, the devil is in the details.
Um, well, that is pretty much what I said in my post. One thing to note: police officers/law enforcement personnel, etc. do not have to take the carry permit class to carry. They can take the class but are not required to take it. Of course, proper documentation is needed to satisfy the commission. Also, there is now a special law on the books for retired law enforcement as to their handgun permits. http://state.tn.us/sos/acts/106/pub/pc0430.pdf
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:02 PM
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Sort of off-topic, but I just looked at the price of a permit in the state of Tennessee, and I think it's ridiculous! $115 for four years? $50 for renewal?

I guess I never realized what a bargain Indiana is. $40 for 4 years or $125 for lifetime.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:15 PM
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Here is the law as worded in the Tennessee code. In a nutshell if someone forcefully enters your dwelling or other place you have the legal right to be then it is automatically assumed your life is in imminent danger which authorizes the use of deadly force.

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39-11-611. Self-defense. —


(a) As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires:

(1) “Business” means a commercial enterprise or establishment owned by a person as all or part of the person's livelihood or is under the owner's control or who is an employee or agent of the owner with responsibility for protecting persons and property and shall include the interior and exterior premises of the business;


(2) “Curtilage” means the area surrounding a dwelling that is necessary, convenient and habitually used for family purposes and for those activities associated with the sanctity of a person's home;


(3) “Dwelling” means a building or conveyance of any kind, including any attached porch, whether the building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, that has a roof over it, including a tent, and is designed for or capable of use by people;


(4) “Residence” means a dwelling in which a person resides, either temporarily or permanently, or is visiting as an invited guest, or any dwelling, building or other appurtenance within the curtilage of the residence; and


(5) “Vehicle” means any motorized vehicle that is self-propelled and designed for use on public highways to transport people or property.




(b) (1) Notwithstanding § 39-17-1322, a person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and is in a place where the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat before threatening or using force against another person when and to the degree the person reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force.


(2) Notwithstanding § 39-17-1322, a person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and is in a place where the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat before threatening or using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury, if:


(A) The person has a reasonable belief that there is an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury;


(B) The danger creating the belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury is real, or honestly believed to be real at the time; and


(C) The belief of danger is founded upon reasonable grounds.




(c) Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury within a residence, business, dwelling or vehicle is presumed to have held a reasonable belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury to self, family, a member of the household or a person visiting as an invited guest, when that force is used against another person, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence, business, dwelling or vehicle, and the person using defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred.




(d) The presumption established in subsection (c) shall not apply, if:


(1) The person against whom the force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, business, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder; provided, that the person is not prohibited from entering the dwelling, business, residence, or occupied vehicle by an order of protection, injunction for protection from domestic abuse, or a court order of no contact against that person;

(2) The person against whom the force is used is attempting to remove a person or persons who is a child or grandchild of, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used;


(3) Notwithstanding § 39-17-1322, the person using force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, business, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or


(4) The person against whom force is used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in § 39-11-106, who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, business, residence, or vehicle in the performance of the officer's official duties, and the officer identified the officer in accordance with any applicable law, or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.




(e) The threat or use of force against another is not justified:


(1) If the person using force consented to the exact force used or attempted by the other individual;


(2) If the person using force provoked the other individual's use or attempted use of unlawful force, unless:

(A) The person using force abandons the encounter or clearly communicates to the other the intent to do so; and


(B) The other person nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful force against the person; or


(3) To resist a halt at a roadblock, arrest, search, or stop and frisk that the person using force knows is being made by a law enforcement officer, unless:


(A) The law enforcement officer uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest, search, stop and frisk, or halt; and


(B) The person using force reasonably believes that the force is immediately necessary to protect against the law enforcement officer's use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.


[Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1990, ch. 1030, § 8; 2007, ch. 210, § 1; 2008, ch. 1012, § 1; 2009, ch. 194, § 2.]
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