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Unread 08-20-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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This just in: Great news for me. I just realized that because UTK has no resident requirments other then establishing a residency the In-state tuition is estimated at $6,850 where as if I was to choose to relocate to Charlotte I would have to be a resident for 12 months in order to obtain in-state tuition so I would just go for out-of-state tuition so I can start right away and that would be estimated at $15,419. This is a $8,569 savings times two which is $17,138! It's also a plus that UTK is ranked as a better school even!! I know where i'm goin.

 
Unread 08-21-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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Check out the USA News and World Report smokestack report. The air around the Vonore Elementary school was rated in the top 1% worst in the US. The report used data that was a few years old, and they are telling us now the air isn't that bad. But, even if it got 50% better, would that be enough?
I don't even research the water.. other than we are told that mercury levels in Tellico Lake are too high to eat the catfish (which are bottom feeders) But what do we tell our kids who swim in the lake, don't dive down that far??
The EPA also checked out the acreolin levels here in Loudon. They are 48% higher than the national average. We are told it is from the trucks on the Interstate, but why are the levels so high in some places and not in others? Interstates run all over the country.. why are the levels so bad here?
Just look at the smokestacks puffing away. Even when I am up in Turkey Creek, I can smell the stench some days from Tate and Lyle in Loudon. For those who don't recognize the smell, it smells like sweet potatoes. We were told it's just a smell, not a pollutant. But who wants to smell that stuff.. and who is to say it's just a smell and not toxic??
We were also told that Loudon County's cancer risk is just 2 cases per million over the average.. what does that tell you about the rest of the region? You guys are not much better off than the rest of us here in Tellico Village! EASTERN TENNESSEE DOES NOT MEET EPA STANDARDS.. THAT MEANS KNOX COUNTY TOO.
Anyway, there are many reports on the internet you can all pull up about the air. It's depressing. I don't even pull them up anymore, I've seen enough. Anyone who might want more information about air quality can contact Mike Cosby of the Breathe Clean Air Action Team (BCAAT) He was recently quoted in the News Herald that ozone and small particulates are what we need to be most concerned about in East Tennessee.
Why should we be concerned about anything? This is truly a beautiful place to live, the pace is great, the people are friendly and the cost of living good. But, we also do not have vehicle inspections..(note the black smoke bellowing out of many vehicles.. not to mention the trucks. We let our factories pollute /coal, etc.. and our geography naturally traps the toxic stuff in.)
As I said, I interface with the disabled on a daily basis.. and it's one cancer case after another, from Lenoir City up to Gatlinberg and Pigeon Forge. It's all over this area..not just Loudon county.
I go on this site often and I am amazed about how much people love this area.. but, I'm not quite sure how informed people really are of this issue.
I've spoken to a representative of Tennessee EPA, Tate and Lyle and my congressperson. There doesn't seem to be much that can done to dramatically improve things in the near future, maybe sometime in the years ahead. We've decided not to wait that long. Now it's just a matter of finding a place like East Tennessee where we can breathe a bit better.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 01:57 PM
 
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Now it's just a matter of finding a place like East Tennessee where we can breathe a bit better.
Hopefully, you can find a place where the inhaled air doesn't affect your reasoning and logic skills, as it has wherever you are now.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by TennesseeFAN View Post
Check out the USA News and World Report smokestack report. The air around the Vonore Elementary school was rated in the top 1% worst in the US. The report used data that was a few years old, and they are telling us now the air isn't that bad. But, even if it got 50% better, would that be enough?
I don't even research the water.. other than we are told that mercury levels in Tellico Lake are too high to eat the catfish (which are bottom feeders) But what do we tell our kids who swim in the lake, don't dive down that far??
The EPA also checked out the acreolin levels here in Loudon. They are 48% higher than the national average. We are told it is from the trucks on the Interstate, but why are the levels so high in some places and not in others? Interstates run all over the country.. why are the levels so bad here?
Just look at the smokestacks puffing away. Even when I am up in Turkey Creek, I can smell the stench some days from Tate and Lyle in Loudon. For those who don't recognize the smell, it smells like sweet potatoes. We were told it's just a smell, not a pollutant. But who wants to smell that stuff.. and who is to say it's just a smell and not toxic??
We were also told that Loudon County's cancer risk is just 2 cases per million over the average.. what does that tell you about the rest of the region? You guys are not much better off than the rest of us here in Tellico Village! EASTERN TENNESSEE DOES NOT MEET EPA STANDARDS.. THAT MEANS KNOX COUNTY TOO.
Anyway, there are many reports on the internet you can all pull up about the air. It's depressing. I don't even pull them up anymore, I've seen enough. Anyone who might want more information about air quality can contact Mike Cosby of the Breathe Clean Air Action Team (BCAAT) He was recently quoted in the News Herald that ozone and small particulates are what we need to be most concerned about in East Tennessee.
Why should we be concerned about anything? This is truly a beautiful place to live, the pace is great, the people are friendly and the cost of living good. But, we also do not have vehicle inspections..(note the black smoke bellowing out of many vehicles.. not to mention the trucks. We let our factories pollute /coal, etc.. and our geography naturally traps the toxic stuff in.)
As I said, I interface with the disabled on a daily basis.. and it's one cancer case after another, from Lenoir City up to Gatlinberg and Pigeon Forge. It's all over this area..not just Loudon county.
I go on this site often and I am amazed about how much people love this area.. but, I'm not quite sure how informed people really are of this issue.
I've spoken to a representative of Tennessee EPA, Tate and Lyle and my congressperson. There doesn't seem to be much that can done to dramatically improve things in the near future, maybe sometime in the years ahead. We've decided not to wait that long. Now it's just a matter of finding a place like East Tennessee where we can breathe a bit better.

This is very disheartening because I was very much looking forward to attending school here and possibly calling Knoxville home.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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This just in: Great news for me. I just realized that because UTK has no resident requirments other then establishing a residency the In-state tuition is estimated at $6,850 where as if I was to choose to relocate to Charlotte I would have to be a resident for 12 months in order to obtain in-state tuition so I would just go for out-of-state tuition so I can start right away and that would be estimated at $15,419. This is a $8,569 savings times two which is $17,138! It's also a plus that UTK is ranked as a better school even!! I know where i'm goin.
If I am not mistaken, I think you have to prove you have been a resident for at least 12 months before you can claim in-state residency, and that would include proof items, such as getting a state driver's license, registering to vote, paying real estate taxes, and some other criteria.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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If I am not mistaken, I think you have to prove you have been a resident for at least 12 months before you can claim in-state residency, and that would include proof items, such as getting a state driver's license, registering to vote, paying real estate taxes, and some other criteria.

Not in TN, I already looked into it after somebody told me they dont have any residency requirments other than establishing a domicile. Kind of hard to beleive I know... but it's the truth.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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I hear that the pollution levels are very bad in Knoxville (for that matter most of East Tennessee), and that it is hard to breath and causing people to get cancer? Can anybody who is from here provide some information on this? And how does Knoxville compare to large cities like NY, LA or AL in this regard?

Last edited by iwantyall2know; 08-21-2010 at 02:11 PM.. Reason: added more
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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Very funny... I guess you don't do what I do for a living everyday. You don't see the cases that could have been prevented with tighter regulations and more care for our enviornment. May you and yours remain in good health....
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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If I am not mistaken, I think you have to prove you have been a resident for at least 12 months before you can claim in-state residency, and that would include proof items, such as getting a state driver's license, registering to vote, paying real estate taxes, and some other criteria.
As a matter of fact, when I went to UTK website they even stated


  1. Every person having his or her domicile in this State shall be classified "instate" for fee and tuition purposes and for admission purposes.
  2. Every person not having his or her domicile in this State shall be classified "out-of-state" for said purposes.
 
Unread 08-21-2010, 02:16 PM
 
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Not in TN, I already looked into it after somebody told me they dont have any residency requirments other than establishing a domicile. Kind of hard to beleive I know... but it's the truth.
I believe those items are necessary proof of establishing domicile, which is necessary other than simply declaring one is a state resident.
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