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Old 09-22-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Hi all,
So it’s a sunny day in Michigan, not too hot and the power goes out. I hookup my little generator to run the frig and a few other things. The power company said the power should be back on by 6:00 pm. But they have been wrong before.

Knowing that the power plant is near Tellico Village I was wondering if Tellico Village main or Tellico Village Kahite has ever had power interruption/outages before? How does power interruptions affect the sewage system? Also, should I bring my generator with me when I move?

Thanks,
Bob
Pretty much everywhere that has electricity has power outages from time to time. Yes, TV has the occasional outage. The utility has recently upgraded our facilities, and we will hopefully have fewer in the future. Our lines to individual homes are underground, but the main feeder lines are above ground and occasionally lightning, trees, car vs. pole accidents, etc, will take power out. The longest we were without power at my house has been 3 or 4 hours. I think in 5 years we've been here, we may have had 2 or 3 outages that lasted more than 5 or 10 minutes. In general, the sewer system won't be adversely affected by a short outage. We have small tanks, sort of like a miniature septic tank, in each yard with a grinder and pump that pumps the sewage, when it reaches a certain level, to the lift stations, and then there are bigger pumps that take it from there. Each property's tank is a large enough for at least a day or two of storage. These systems are all maintained by the POA, and are paid for by your POA dues.

If you feel that a few hours without power would be a problem (such as if you need special medical equipment, then it might be necessary. But it would be rare issue, and we've never found it necessary. I do remember one instance where an area of the village was without power overnight, and everyone who had a problem just went to stay at a friend's place.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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Pretty much everywhere that has electricity has power outages from time to time. Yes, TV has the occasional outage. The utility has recently upgraded our facilities, and we will hopefully have fewer in the future. Our lines to individual homes are underground, but the main feeder lines are above ground and occasionally lightning, trees, car vs. pole accidents, etc, will take power out. The longest we were without power at my house has been 3 or 4 hours. I think in 5 years we've been here, we may have had 2 or 3 outages that lasted more than 5 or 10 minutes. In general, the sewer system won't be adversely affected by a short outage. We have small tanks, sort of like a miniature septic tank, in each yard with a grinder and pump that pumps the sewage, when it reaches a certain level, to the lift stations, and then there are bigger pumps that take it from there. Each property's tank is a large enough for at least a day or two of storage. These systems are all maintained by the POA, and are paid for by your POA dues.

If you feel that a few hours without power would be a problem (such as if you need special medical equipment, then it might be necessary. But it would be rare issue, and we've never found it necessary. I do remember one instance where an area of the village was without power overnight, and everyone who had a problem just went to stay at a friend's place.
Hi TheShadow,
As usual, The Shadow Knows! Thanks Again!

The power outage lasted just 8 hrs., apparently a tree fell taking out almost a sq. mile. I assume that they had sent some of the repair crews down to the coast to help out with the hurricane.

Have a Great Week,
Bob
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:18 AM
 
Location: East TN
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We had an outage at our home in Northern CA when an unusual December snow storm took out a bunch of trees and lines. We went without power for 3 days in below freezing temps! We couldn't leave because we had to make sure our pipes didn't freeze. After that, I think we can handle a few hours without power.

When we first moved to TV five years ago, they were having issues with overloading the circuit when temps went super high or super low (most homes here are heated by heat pump (electric), but the power company upgraded the substation and we're doing fine now.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:12 PM
 
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Default Our Trip to Tellico Village and Maryville, TN

A huge “thank you” to everyone who has patiently answered my questions. While I was at Tellico Village I shouted a big “hello” to each of you and waved in the hopes you would feel the aura.

I wish I could give happier news, but it was a difficult trip. From the endless rain, to my husband falling down a flight of stairs and landing on his head, to the dog having seizures, to the two flat tires on the front passenger side of the car. By the end of the trip we were worried about what would happen next and just wanted to get home in one piece.

Originally our intent was to take whatever time we needed to thoroughly investigate Tellico Village, Vonore, Loudon , Maryville, Knoxville, and Farragut.

We began our drive to TN in the rain:

Day 2: In Mississippi we had our first flat tire. AAA came to our rescue and changed the tire in the ceaseless rain. We went shopping for a new tire. $175 later with a new tire on our car we were on our way and very behind schedule. We finally arrived in Maryville that night. It was raining there too. The stairs to the rental were slick and my husband fell down the flight of stairs landing on his head in the mud. The emergency room cleaned his wounds, predicted he would live, and sent us on our way.

Day 3: The next day we met with a volunteer at Tellico Village. We had incorrectly thought that the tour would be private so that we could see what we were most interested in; but, another couple joined us. I suspect that is why the tour was very generic with most of the information provided being a replica of what you all have already told me. We saw the lake, the golf course, the tennis courts and pickleball courts, the non denominational church, the Food Lion, and the outside of a few homes. I asked to see the inside of the Chota Recreation Center and the Wellness Center.

What to say, what to say…. prior to our trip to Tellico Village we toured Sun City Texas to give us something to compare TV to. I will say up front that I don’t like the look of Texas. It is brown and scrubby, with stunted trees and lots of dust. Sun City Texas was very pretty through the use of copious irrigation. It had multiple exercise centers on site packed with just about every type of equipment, weight, and group session one could hope for. It had multiple indoor and outdoor pools. It had multiple recreation centers which were in immaculate condition, beautifully decorated, and filled with rooms for special interests. Among the workshops that I can recall were pottery, glassworks, painting, photography, music, dance, movies… there are plenty I am forgetting. Volunteers staffed these rooms and provided instruction for those who needed it. The recreation centers were a beehive of activity.

I don’t know why but I was expecting the same thing in the Chota Recreation Center. The building looked old and tired and mostly deserted. Inside were two men playing table tennis and a third man shooting hoops by himself. One of the other visitors with us actually commented to us that the building looked depressing. He wanted to know where all the people were, and in a valiant attempt to show us that the recreation center is actually used, we were shown a list ten lines long to reserve one of the rooms and given sheets listing activities.

The Wellness Center gave a better impression. It was filled with exercise equipment and weights. We were told that someone from a specialist’s office comes once a week or so to give instructions on the use of the equipment and stretching exercises to help with pain management. There was a lot of assorted equipment lined in rows across the room and circling the equipment was a walking track. It looked like any gym one might join.

The tour ended on that note as we needed time to eat lunch and then were off to meet our Realtor for a tour of homes. The husband on the tour with us leaned over and whispered to my husband that he wouldn’t find much value in the homes at Tellico Village. I was saddened that he thought so, but to each his own.

Upon the suggestion of TheShadow we stopped to have lunch at Thai Bistro. The food here is fantastic. My husband had the Mongolian Beef and I had the red curry. Then we ran back to the Welcome Center to meet with our Realtor. I am still wishing we had been able to go back for a second meal.

Our Realtor had scheduled to show us 3 homes in our price range. The first home was larger than we wanted but was selling under budget. It is a fixer upper and much more than I want to tackle. The second home was still larger than I would like, but was also in our price range. This house was move-in ready if one wanted to live with decorating that was significantly not to your taste. I understand that I can rip out floors and cabinets, and walls over time, but it still is money that I will never see back out of that house. The third house was the size and price that we were looking for but also hadn’t been updated. I felt a little like being on House Hunters with each house having something but none of the houses really being right. My husband was left with the impression that the man from the tour had been correct in his assessment and was not impressed with what you get for your money. I kept reminding him that this process takes time. Our Realtor showed us the dog park and we let our dogs play in the empty park. They really enjoyed themselves.

That night my littlest dog had his first seizure ever. But he seemed to come out of it without aftereffects. We decided to sit with him all night to watch him to see if he needed a trip to an emergency vet.

Day 4: By the next morning we relaxed thinking he might have eaten something outside that caused this and that is when he had his second seizure. We put the dogs in the car and picked Chilhowee Veterinary Clinic in Maryville which was close to where we were staying.

I cannot say enough wonderful things about this practice. Even though we didn’t have an appointment and they don’t know my dog (who is not an easy patient at the best of times), the vet came in to treat him immediately. She did blood work and a urine analysis, talked to us for a really long time and spent a long time thoroughly examining him. She also called me later that day to see if he had had further seizures, asked me to keep a journal of when the seizures were happening, to take a video so she could see what was happening, and had me call in his temperature until Friday. She spoke with me every day, and offered to speak with my vet when we got home. Our local vet does not put this much effort and attention into our little guy and she has been our vet for 10 years. I cannot say enough good things about this practice and I highly recommend them. Total cost for fantastic veterinary medical care: $271.02! Even when my little dog is healthy, I never get out of his vet without a $500 bill.

So, the fourth day being taken up with running back and forth to the vet, once our boy was doing better I decided to start working on my grocery spreadsheet. Before we left home I listed 54 items we routinely buy. I went to my local grocery store and priced each item with the intent of comparing prices in Tellico Village and surrounding areas. I went to Kroger and Food Lion in Maryville, and Food City in Loudon. I found that all prices are much higher for groceries than where I live by a lot. It’s a bit shocking how much people pay for groceries in TN in addition to paying sales tax on them even though Serious Conversation has mentioned this a time or two. Don’t worry, I am not about to list all 54 items, but for example:

Bananas: here: .44/lb Kroger: .49/lb Food Lion: .59/lb Food City: .59/lb
Marie’s Salad Dressing: here: 3.38 Kroger: 3 .69 Food Lion: 3.59 Food City: 3 .99
Almond Breeze Almond Milk: here: 2.78 Kroger: 3 .19 Food Lion: 3.19 Food City: I couldn’t find it

The employees in the grocery stores kept coming up to ask me what I was doing and to offer assistance. It is just remarkable how friendly and helpful everyone is. It is an attitude that we’ve lost where I live. So, while I was in the Food City in Loudon I realized that I couldn’t remember the name of the TexMex restaurant that TheShadow had suggested. I asked the woman at the deli counter if she knew which one it could be. Without hesitation she took me to the meat department where the employee who lives in TV told me it was probably Cinco Amigos and we were going to love it.

Day 5: We decided to drive to Kahite and explore it on our own as neither the TV volunteer nor our Realtor took us to see it. We went to see the lake and the golf course and drove around the neighborhoods. We were very excited to see deer and a fox. We drove around Vonore, and Loudon and stopped at Cinco Amigos for lunch. The food is heavenly. The owner told me that he is from Mexico originally and then lived in Houston. We licked the plates clean, gave him our profuse compliments and left as friends.

Being pressed for time we then explored Farragut and Knoxville. I liked Farragut. It has great shopping. What we saw of the city looked prosperous. We then drove to Knoxville where we got our second flat tire on the front passenger side. I mean really, who gets two flat tires in the same spot within 4 days? Once again AAA changed the tire for us. We abandoned our interest in Knoxville and instead headed back to Maryville to buy another tire. $210 later we were thinking that we’d had enough of this trip and decided to cut it short.

Bottom line: we think Tennessee is beautiful. Tellico Village is lovely. We liked the mountains, the trees, the lake, the wildlife. We felt Kahiti and Tellico Village were very remote and we are getting older. Trips between Knoxville, Maryville, and Tellico Village require a lot of driving. We are used to everything being within 5 miles of us and we don’t think we should give that up at our age. I think Farragut and Maryville were more in our comfort level, but we didn’t feel that they had enough to offer that our city wasn’t also offering, and grocery prices and sales tax are expensive. We also thought with all the difficulties that either my husband’s late wife, my late husband, or God was giving us a message that we shouldn’t consider moving to TN.
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Old 10-23-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Gosh, What a wild trip! You guys sure hit some very bad luck. 2 flat tires, a slip and fall, and a sick dog, my goodness. I'm so glad that hubby and the dog are going to both be okay. I wish I knew that you were here when you were, I might've been available to meet up with you, and give you a more personalized tour. I've done that with a few C-D'ers over the years.

Chota rec center is one of the older amenities in the village, and is often a beehive of activity with quilting club, weight watchers, photography classes, etc, as well as badminton, pickleball classes, etc in the basketball gym. I do find the low ceiling a little oppressive, but TV was much smaller when it was built and over the years, with the new fitness center, the yacht club, and other amenities, Chota is often used mainly for the meeting rooms, the outdoor pool, tai chi, etc. Of course everything happens on a schedule, so you probably just hit it at a slow time.

I hope you find your happy place to retire. Not everyone wants the same things, and not everyone is going to love every place. TV does have a few local businesses in the village that make it convenient for us, but if you aren't comfortable driving ten or twelve miles to town, or longer to big shopping areas like Farragut and Knoxville, than TV really probably isn't right for you. For us, it's very similar in distances to our previous home, so we really don't mind. You learn to make adjustments and bundle your trips to town, so you get everything done for that week on one day. We go to west Knoxville maybe once a month, and downtown Knoxville probably less than 6 or 8 times a year, so it's not that bad for us.

Good luck with your search, and if you ever make a return trip, please DM me and I can meet up with you and show you anything you'd like.
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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Thank you, TheShadow for your kindness.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I retired and moved from Metro Atlanta in April. I also find grocery prices high here. I live in West Knoxville, Farragut area. One can do well shopping the Kroger specials and downloading their coupons. I live two miles from both a Kroger and a Publix, so quick trips are easy. There are so many things to balance in choosing a retirement location.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: East TN
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Very true. I'm willing to pay a little more for groceries to save 75% of my property taxes, and pay no state income tax, in addition to a mortgage that's $600 less per month than my old one for a similar size home. We calculated that, on average, we save $17,000 per year by living in TN, and we have a better lifestyle.

We also gained a big sense of relief from the traffic, crowds, rudeness, and frustration we were experiencing in our old state (CA). As LookingatFL mentioned, the people here are very kind and friendly and always willing to help. And it's not just the folks here in TV, but it seems as if the people of this state, as a whole, want to take care of one another. It's not something I've really experienced before.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Very true. I'm willing to pay a little more for groceries to save 75% of my property taxes, and pay no state income tax, in addition to a mortgage that's $600 less per month than my old one for a similar size home. We calculated that, on average, we save $17,000 per year by living in TN, and we have a better lifestyle.

We also gained a big sense of relief from the traffic, crowds, rudeness, and frustration we were experiencing in our old state (CA). As LookingatFL mentioned, the people here are very kind and friendly and always willing to help. And it's not just the folks here in TV, but it seems as if the people of this state, as a whole, want to take care of one another. It's not something I've really experienced before.
Very true. I think it depends upon what State you are moving from. We are already living in a State that does not have an income tax, so moving to TN would not provide a savings for us in that regard. The biggest savings would be in property taxes, but that savings would be reduced by higher sales tax, higher grocery costs, and higher POA fees. I also had to look at the fact that we have a homestead exemption and an age 65 exemption on our property taxes which reduces our property tax bill. Both exemptions can be taken with us to any home we move to here. TN does not have an exemption for age and as homes in TV increase in sales value the property taxes will rise with no way to mitigate that.... granted, this will take time. But, I saw it happen in CT before it opted for a state income tax, and I watched it happen in Florida before Florida copied California with the Save Our Homes amendment and I am watching it happen here. I am also watching the price of houses rise in Tellico Village.

I don't believe I am going to find a much lower cost of living. Things are becoming both clearer and murkier as I investigate.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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Default TV Marketing Department.

So I have clicked the link on the TV web site and called and left 2 messages on the TV Marketing toll-free number and I have not yet had anyone email me or call me back. What the heck?
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